# Alarming trend in moderation **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 11, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891 "2019-07-11T06:58:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/161 "2019-07-14T12:02:02Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I will agree that the moderation has taken a higher degree in interest in such topics, demanding posters be more respectful in those discussions. I will not, however, agree with the idea that respect is only required if you are the right side. It’s actually a chore to call out bigotry without getting in trouble for it, something that a lot of us don’t like. Even the post/poster distinction isn’t absolute anymore, as sometimes attacking the post may be determined as attacking the poster, if the attack is strong enough. We have to be calm about it. Perhaps without realizing it, you are basically admitting that you are a restive mob of exuberant true believers who have trouble holding back from an all out explosion of righteous fury against the benighted, unenlightened scum you are forced to tolerate. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/162 "2019-07-14T12:08:19Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Perhaps without realizing it, you are basically admitting that you are a restive mob of exuberant true believers who have trouble holding back from an all out explosion of righteous fury against the benighted, unenlightened scum you are forced to tolerate. or PERHAPS he’s admitting that he’s secretly a zebra cavorting on the veldt! “Perhaps” is doing all the work in that sentence, Slacker. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/163 "2019-07-14T12:31:25Z")
The “perhaps” only applies to whether s/he realizes it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/164 "2019-07-14T12:33:41Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > The “perhaps” only applies to whether s/he realizes it. Shame–it was the only thing that saved the sentence from straight-up absurdity. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/165 "2019-07-14T12:36:18Z")
I am rather proud of the sentence, personally. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/166 "2019-07-14T12:41:28Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I am rather proud of the sentence, personally. Proverbs 16:18 ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/167 "2019-07-14T14:15:05Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Proverbs 16:18 Personally, in situations like this, I use: Dalmations 3: 12-27 I’ve read _Lamb_ way too many times ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/168 "2019-07-14T14:44:24Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Okay, I took your assurances to heart and started a thread in GD that I would have otherwise had great trepidation to wade into. Interesting. Given these assurances you started [a thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=878741) that: 1. Had a title and thesis that [fundamentally misrepresented your cite](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21749000&postcount=27); and 2. Poisoned the well by asking whether your (incorrect) thesis was the fault of political correctness, or the racism of the media; and 3. Based on these two points, comes across as trying to tweak liberals. When you’re called on these points, you respond by [veering off into an irrelevant side issue](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21749196&postcount=44) (Didja know that black people aren’t disproportionately killed by police?), which would be relevant as another thread but has as its main connection to this thread that it reads like “tweak the liberals.” The first two points should be sufficient to get the thread closed, in my opinion. I know you think that makes me, what, a crowing Maoist full of righteous fury or some such blather; but rather, it makes me someone not wanting the board to be cluttered up by disingenuous “pwning the libs” posts. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/169 "2019-07-14T15:17:19Z")
New band name: Crowing Maoists. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/170 "2019-07-14T15:20:55Z")
What you call “poisoning the well” is a point made by a black Muslim anti-gang activist/counselor in the NYT article itself. So I hope it’s just that you didn’t read it. Maybe you should. ETA: “Pwning the libs” but I’m constantly stanning for Kamala Harris in Elections. Riiiight. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/171 "2019-07-14T16:11:09Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > What you call “poisoning the well” is a point made by a black Muslim anti-gang activist/counselor in the NYT article itself. So I hope it’s just that you didn’t read it. Maybe you should. Since you and that counselor are talking about different things, given your initial misrepresentation of the link, this is a continued misrepresentation. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/172 "2019-07-14T18:02:20Z")
["Some of the best friends I got is coloured.”](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=878756) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/173 "2019-07-14T18:22:54Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > ["Some of the best friends I got is coloured.”](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=878756) **Moderating** If this is intended to refer to the OP, keep it out of ATMB. To others: Although the OP brought it up, there is no reason to further debate the new GD thread here, since its premise is being discussed both in both GD and the Pit. Keep debates out of ATMB. Colibri ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/174 "2019-07-14T18:33:04Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > **Moderating** > > If this is intended to refer to the OP, keep it out of ATMB. > > To others: > > Although the OP brought it up, there is no reason to further debate the new GD thread here, since its premise is being discussed both in both GD and the Pit. Keep debates out of ATMB. > > Colibri I get what you’re saying, and so maybe the question should be more general. HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, if a person posts a thread in GD that consists of three sentences and a title, and the title asks a misleading question, and the first sentence misrepresents its cite, and the final sentence poisons the well, and the only other sentence expresses surprise – HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, is that appropriate GD material? I don’t want to debate any of those points here, because I think they’re pretty indisputable. My question is limited to what should happen in such a case. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/175 "2019-07-14T18:47:02Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > My question is limited to what should happen in such a case. Without judging the particular thread, that’s up to the GD mods and the posters who are responding to it. It seems to me that what should happen is happening: other posters are questioning the premise and the accuracy of the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/176 "2019-07-14T19:11:36Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > **Moderating** > > If this is intended to refer to the OP, keep it out of ATMB. > > To others: > > Although the OP brought it up, there is no reason to further debate the new GD thread here, since its premise is being discussed both in both GD and the Pit. Keep debates out of ATMB. > > Colibri The pit thread is not about SlackerInc’s Great Debates thread. I can see where the confusion arises however. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/177 "2019-07-14T19:22:33Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > The pit thread is not about SlackerInc’s Great Debates thread. I can see where the confusion arises however. **Moderator Note** Exactly why it shouldn’t have been linked to here. But you know that, since you mentioned Slacker’s GD thread in the Pit thread. So knock it off or you’ll receive a warning. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/178 "2019-07-14T20:00:02Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > **Moderating** > > If this is intended to refer to the OP, keep it out of ATMB. Are you meaning Original Poster, or Original Post, here? Because it reads like it’s referring to Slacker’s own raising of his “stanning” of a PoC politician. So surely this moderation should go to that post, and not just the response to it? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/179 "2019-07-14T20:02:45Z")
Also, quick side question - have the ATMB mods been changed and the forum description not updated? Because \*\*Colibri \*\*seems to think there’s a clear line about who can and can’t mod in GD, but everymod seems to throw their oar in in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891/180 "2019-07-14T20:14:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Are you meaning Original Poster, or Original Post, here? Because it reads like it’s referring to Slacker’s own raising of his “stanning” of a PoC politician. So surely this moderation should go to that post, and not just the response to it? The link to the Pit thread was apparently intended to be insulting to Slacker. That is what I was referring to. And if you have issues with the GD thread, discuss them there, not here. > [@MrDibble](#): > > Also, quick side question - have the ATMB mods been changed and the forum description not updated? Because \*\*Colibri \*\*seems to think there’s a clear line about who can and can’t mod in GD, but everymod seems to throw their oar in in this forum. Since this forum is about board issues in general, all mods may comment on such issues in this forum. But I’m sure you know that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alarming-trend-in-moderation/836891.md?page=10)