# Alaska Senate race
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [August 27, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607 "2010-08-27T01:03:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 4
### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/61 "2010-10-19T16:48:24Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> I sure hope Alaskans are smart enough to send this dickwad home crying on November 2.
Don’t hold your breath.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/62 "2010-10-19T17:08:37Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> [A (now) former Miller supporter corroborates Hopfinger’s account of the handcuffing incident.](http://alaskadispatch.com/dispatches/politics/7195-witness-reporter-was-rude-but-not-a-threat)
I posted this in [Great debates](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=582399) if anyone is interested.
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/63 "2010-10-19T17:19:10Z")
[Miller defends handcuffing of reporter.](http://www.democracynow.org/2010/10/19/headlines#3)
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> Joe Miller, the Republican Senate nominee in Alaska, has defended a decision made by his private security guards to detain and handcuff a reporter at a public meeting on Sunday. Miller accused Tony Hopfinger, the editor of the website Alaska Dispatch, of harassing him and following him into a bathroom while trying to get an interview. In an interview on Fox News, Miller dismissed charges that the guards violated Hopfinger’s First Amendment rights.
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> > **Joe Miller:** “Well, I have been the most transparent, most successful candidate of the three. That town hall meeting was full of people with questions and we answered them. So, if anybody is going to talk about the First Amendment, we are huge proponents of it and we like to have the free exchange of ideas and that is what happened up until this guy just starting crossing the line.”
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> Private security guards working for the firm Drop Zone handcuffed Hopfinger, and detained him in a hallway of the school for 25 minutes until police arrived and ordered his release. Private security guards also tried to prevent two other reporters from filming the detention but a reporter from the Anchorage Daily News briefly spoke with Hopfinger.
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> > Tony Hopfinger: At that point they took me down here.
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> > Reporter: Who is they?
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> > Tony Hopfinger: All of these guys and they handcuffed me and then they called the police.
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> > Reporter: How did they get the handcuffs on? How did you let them handcuff you? They used force?
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> > Tony Hopfinger: They used force to put me in handcuffs.
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> The Anchorage Daily News has also revealed that two of the private security guards who detained the reporter were active-duty soldiers moonlighting for the security firm.
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### Author:  [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/64 "2010-10-19T23:36:00Z")
Looks like the hits just keep on comin’ for old Joe–[looks like he might have some ‘splainin’ to do to the IRS as well.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/10/19/911676/-Breaking:-Joe-Miller-is-a-Tax-Cheat) I love it that he’s paying himself 50-100K per year rent on an office with an assessed value of about 25K in order to get out of paying Social Security payroll taxes. Seriously, are there any laws these Tea Party fuckers think apply to them? They’re all about making laws to force the rest of us to toe their retarded party line but they themselves? Not so much.
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/65 "2010-10-19T23:52:25Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Looks like the hits just keep on comin’ for old Joe–[looks like he might have some ‘splainin’ to do to the IRS as well.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/10/19/911676/-Breaking:-Joe-Miller-is-a-Tax-Cheat) I love it that he’s paying himself 50-100K per year rent on an office with an assessed value of about 25K in order to get out of paying Social Security payroll taxes. Seriously, are there any laws these Tea Party fuckers think apply to them? They’re all about making laws to force the rest of us to toe their retarded party line but they themselves? Not so much.
Sounds pretty fascist to me. The important thing, however, is that he’s not a Socialist.
-Joe
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### Author:  [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/66 "2010-10-20T03:48:03Z")
> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Sounds pretty fascist to me. The important thing, however, is that he’s not a Socialist.
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> -Joe
Aw, dammit, I done screwed up my Teabagger Bingo card, shit. Anybody got another one?
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/67 "2010-10-21T15:18:28Z")
Apparently, even Alaska’s Republicans [have had enough](http://www.adn.com/2010/10/20/1511237/alaska-republicans-call-for-answers.html) of this guy.
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [October 21, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/68 "2010-10-21T18:34:35Z")
> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Apparently, even Alaska’s Republicans [have had enough](http://www.adn.com/2010/10/20/1511237/alaska-republicans-call-for-answers.html) of this guy.
I don’t see it that way, though I wish it were so. I see it as one partisan sub-group within the party wants Miller to play ball with the press. They’re not even disowning him.
The Republican party as an institution is apparently not behind this.
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/69 "2010-10-22T00:19:33Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I don’t see it that way, though I wish it were so. I see it as one partisan sub-group within the party wants Miller to play ball with the press. They’re not even disowning him.
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> The Republican party as an institution is apparently not behind this.
Well, give them a couple of weeks.
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### Author:  [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/70 "2010-10-22T00:56:15Z")
The tea baggers don’t answer questions because they don’t have any answers. At least ones that non tea baggers will accept. better to let people think you are a little crazy, than opening your mouth and removing all doubt.
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/71 "2010-10-24T15:18:16Z")
An Alaska judge has ordered the North Star Borough to release Joe Miller’s documents to the public. He’s given them enough time to appeal to the Alaska Supremes and allowed some redacting, though.
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/72 "2010-10-24T16:28:59Z")
> [@Chefguy](#):
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> An Alaska judge has ordered the North Star Borough to release Joe Miller’s documents to the public. He’s given them enough time to appeal to the Alaska Supremes and allowed some redacting, though.
Knowing the truth is important…but let’s edit it, first? Must be some of that national security stuff. They are on the Commie Border after all.
-Joe
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/73 "2010-10-24T17:46:39Z")
> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Knowing the truth is important…but let’s edit it, first? Must be some of that national security stuff. They are on the Commie Border after all.
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> -Joe
I would hope that it’s information like SSN and other private info that others have no right to see. Otherwise, what’s the point?
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/74 "2010-10-24T19:07:58Z")
Another reporter [bounced](http://community.adn.com/adn/node/153890) from a Miller event. And this one hadn’t even asked a question.
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/75 "2010-10-24T19:25:33Z")
> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Another reporter [bounced](http://community.adn.com/adn/node/153890) from a Miller event. And this one hadn’t even asked a question.
Probably had some sort of Commie/Socialist Lenin beard. Not a rugged manly beard like Miller/Palin.
-Joe
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/76 "2010-10-25T02:19:49Z")
They had it on good authority that she was going to ask Miller a “gotcha” question.
Like “what is your favorite color?”
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/77 "2010-10-25T15:33:16Z")
Even [Ben Stein](http://alaskadispatch.com/voices/tundra-talk/7254-ben-stein-good-old-tail-gunner-joe-miller) hates this guy.
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/78 "2010-10-25T15:48:10Z")
Other “gotcha” questions for Miller:
Are your guards going to beat me?
Are your guards going to kill me?
What do your guards intend to do with those billy clubs?
Have you ever killed anyone?
Have you ever ordered someone’s death?
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/79 "2010-10-25T17:17:16Z")
Jeez . . . If Miller wins this, we should seriously consider selling Alaska back to the Russians!
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alaska-senate-race/551607/80 "2010-10-26T22:19:41Z")
Miller [fails to report](http://alaskadispatch.com/dispatches/politics/7250-joe-millers-mysterious-mat-su-hideaway) land holdings on disclosure documents.
In part:
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> For the past 14 years, U.S. Senate candidate Joe Miler has owned or controlled 40 acres with a two-story house near Willow, but he does not report it in his Senate financial disclosure statements.
> The deed for the property is recorded in the name of something called “The Wilmington Trust,” but the woman named as the trustee says she had no idea of the exact nature of her legal connections and obligations to the property. Whether a trust actually exists is unclear.
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