# Albert Einstien vs rain man **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 9, 2004, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753 "2004-11-09T00:05:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/21 "2004-11-09T12:53:29Z")
I, for one, am emboldened by this proof that now _everyone_ has access to the internet. We knew the day would come - Hoorray! it is here! ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/22 "2004-11-09T13:42:24Z")
Einsteins’ brain pan ediface outs media time contraints on the upper limb. Brain, is, too not to espexially four little rats. Noping the ulvular revolving turns nothing into cream when the messenger eats pie. Are squared notions never elected? No. That should clear it up. ---
**Author:** ![Sample\_the\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sample\_the\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sample_the_Dog)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/23 "2004-11-09T18:04:29Z")
Now everybody’s [Dr. Bronner](http://www.drbronner.com/labels/pepmt.pdf) (pdf). ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/24 "2004-11-09T19:12:46Z")
> [@](#): > > There has been some equal, and redemption figures, whether science or otherwise, a recall… Utterly meaningless; I really tried to make sense of this, but the words simply don’t mean what you appear to think they mean. > [@](#): > > … of how the human mind can change from a simple thought to making something into a tool to use it to their advantage; There is almost nothing that’s understood about this process, and only the most basic understanding of smaller steps like thought to speech. > [@](#): > > …or, when they compaire Einstein’s brain to Kim Peek’s brain… The only difference is that there’s a lot less of Peek’s brain; no great differences have been shown to exist between geniuses and the rest of us. > [@](#): > > and think they can put thoughts in a person’s brain (or simply think they can) that doesn’t work past the fact that a person’s mind has a hard time adapting to others’ thoughts without washing that person’s mind, perhaps in a hard, controlled thinktank, with or without drugs. No one thinks this is possible, or has the foggiest idea of how’d they try (except for a few SF writers, and they’re all wrong). > [@](#): > > Dissecting their brain, it’s much more than that No kidding. > [@](#): > > - it’s the actual thoughts that make the memory and make a human a human! We all have individual thoughts on what we are interested in, and our thoughts make us individuals. no kidding. > [@](#): > > In that thought, to take someone’s mind and compare it to someone else’s thoughts, in some way makes us feel that we have to live by a standard of thinking, or a way of life - we all have a standard of thought. I guess it depends on what our minds diserns as to what is right, and what is wrong, at least to our morals; being civilized - being human, that is - and how we were brought up, or programmed in things we believe in or not. If I understand you correctly, you think it’s arbitrary to judge people by the quality of their thoughts? Yes, if the thoughts are simple cultural artifacts. But there are very real differences – in the speed of processing, in the accuracy and completeness of reasoning, and in the richness of internal life – that I think are very reasonable and more-or-less objective ways to judge thought. > [@](#): > > How the human mind works, how it’s defined - don’t you think it’s wrong, or right, to see that Kim’s brain is just as explorable as Albert’s, and as respected, or is it just another high-tech way of analyzing a person’s brain more efficiently with what’s understood,or trying to understand the brain itself. Abnormal brains are studied every bit as assiduously – probably more so – than the ordinary or the exceptional. > [@](#): > > The brain is one of the least-understood parts of the human body, possibly a micro-volt system of electronic subways & paths, along with chemical -bios-natural-cell based system that is involved in a more complex system than we can understand at this moment in time (an exploratory can’t hurt at this moment). > The computer has alot to say in this future world - more than you think! > Why would they even compare these brains unless they thought it could help them or us some way, possibly a more intelligent (faster), sub system, a system that seems to work around the mechanical, chemical, BIOS, integrated circuits combined. > I think that’s what they’re working on now. You think “they” are working on what? A big organic-electronic brain? Nah. Combined biological and electronic circuits? Yeah, a little. Comparing brains? Yeah. Exploring the “circuitry” and biochemical functioning of the brain? Yeah, for a good long time now, and it’ll be a good long time more before we have it cracked. Let’s see if I’ve got it straight: The brain is so complicated that we don’t fully understand it, and until we do, we can’t judge thought well enough to say that Kim Peek is retarded? Nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/25 "2004-11-09T19:31:58Z")
> [@mitchythekid](#): > > I thought this was a Thinkers site, I guess I should move to a site that atleast excepts someone for there input.I’m not perfect ,nor, do I disrepect someone who has multi- errors in typing , I’ve seen worse,at least you can read them. Im not slow,and find my-self to be rather highly intelligent,depends on where your coming from.Seems your coming from that sick infected wound,that bleeds yellow puss,has a hair growing out of it,and squeeze’s it for all it’s worth, and get nothin!! > IF we could just throw your negitive ass with “COLON” powell,“DICK” chaney,george “BUSH”!! :eek: :smack: > SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONES IS GETTING F\*\*KED UP THE ASS. :eek: :smack: [Moderator underoos on]This is IMHO, _not_ the BBQ Pit. You will watch your language and respect the opinions of the other posters in this forum, or you will leave.[/Moderator underoos on] ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/26 "2004-11-10T04:34:53Z")
> [@Nametag](#): > > The only difference is that there’s a lot less of Peek’s brain; no great differences have been shown to exist between geniuses and the rest of us. I have a vague recollection that geniuses have more folds (or twists, crinkliness…whatever you call it) to their brains than the average Joe. However, even if true, it is hardly a science one could hang their hat on and expect anything like reliable predictions. Of more scientific use scientists use PET scans of the brain while it is working to see the difference between geniuses and normal folks. The genius types use more of their brains when engaged in a particular task than regular people. Some suggest that while geniuses simply seem well programmed (comes to them naturally) it is not unreasonable to suggest that anyone could do the same with some hard work on their part. You might find this interesting: > [@](#): > > THOMAS EDISON gave his famous formula for genius as 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration. Modern-day students of geniuses and prodigies, though, argue over the relative contributions of more tangible factors—of genetics, of physiology, of hours spent in training. Most believe that geniuses have special genes. Almost nobody takes the opposite stance: that prodigy performance, in any field, lies within the grasp of anyone who cares to try hard enough. > > Anders Ericsson, a psychologist at Florida State University, falls into the minority camp. Given ten years of deliberate practice, Dr Ericsson says, anyone should be able to attain prodigy-level performance in his discipline of choice. The intuitive objection to this idea is the “Mozart argument”, as it is called by Brian Butterworth, a neuroscientist at University College London who has studied the psychological aspects of arithmetic for many years. This argument is that not everyone can become a Mozart merely by dint of hard work. Dr Ericsson wonders why not. After all, he argues, did not Mozart become Mozart by dint of hard work? > > SOURCE: [Who wants to be a genius? – Jan 11th 2001, The Economist](http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=471563) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/27 "2004-11-10T04:59:48Z")
\*\*Albert Einstien vs rain man \*\*? I say Rain Man in the 2nd round. ---
**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/28 "2004-11-10T08:14:45Z")
[ > [@](#): > > Humans exist as CUBICS, not entities, > for the 4 corner stages of rotating human > metamorphosis do not occur at the same time > for the individual - except for family Cube. > You are educated stupid, indoctrinated evil, > and can’t even acknowledge that a mother > and baby are the same age - on opposite > corners of a Cubic Creation Principle - for > Truth in Opposites contradict a god entity. > Evil educators suppress Cubic Creation and > preach evil singularity to dumb students - > dispossessing students of ratiocinate mind. > WORD students serve Nature best if dead. ]([http://www.timecube.com](http://www.timecube.com))I’ve no idea why I thought this fit here. ---
**Author:** ![Guy\_Incognito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guy_incognito/32/3920_2.png) [@Guy\_Incognito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guy_Incognito)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/29 "2004-11-10T17:30:55Z")
> [@Dijon Warlock](#): > > I’ve no idea why I thought this fit here. Spooky. I was thinking about the “Time Cube” when I first read the OP. I was wondering when somebody would finally bring it up! ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/30 "2004-11-11T00:45:34Z")
a recall = I recall I think his first sentence means something like “There have been, I recall, some average, or outstanding, thinkers who can make the leap from a mere thought to the ability to conceptualize an actual workable tool based on that vague thought.” I think… Sir Rhosis ---
**Author:** ![Sample\_the\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sample\_the\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sample_the_Dog)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753/31 "2004-11-11T01:05:28Z")
> [@Sir Rhosis](#): > > I think… Well knock it off! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/albert-einstien-vs-rain-man/273753.md?page=1)