# Alberta votes on Monday May 29 - Thoughts? Predictions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 26, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610 "2023-05-26T02:45:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/41 "2023-05-30T05:03:21Z")
CTV has just declared a UCP victory–52 seats to 35–but some ridings have yet to be definitely decided. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/42 "2023-05-30T05:09:17Z")
If it stays like that, it will exactly match the 338 seat projection. Those guys nailed it. ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/43 "2023-05-30T05:27:44Z")
Madness. Absolute folly. And we had the United States as an object lesson as well. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/44 "2023-05-30T09:00:43Z")
Interesting that Albertans had 15 parties to choose from. My riding only had four. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/45 "2023-05-30T11:30:00Z")
Some real squeakers in the Calgary area. - [Calgary-Acadia](https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/alberta/2023/results/#/ridings/25443) NDP win by 7 votes. - [Calgary-Glenmore](https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/alberta/2023/results/#/ridings/25455) NDP win by 30 votes. A few more UCP wins at around the 100-200 vote range. A real battleground next election. Compare this to the riding of Drumheller-Stettler where UCP’s Nate Horner was able to [pull over 80% of the vote](https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/alberta/2023/results/#/ridings/25501). Safest seat I’ve seen anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/46 "2023-05-30T12:13:29Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Compare this to the riding of Drumheller-Stettler where UCP’s Nate Horner was able to [pull over 80% of the vote](https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/alberta/2023/results/#/ridings/25501). Dinosaurs! ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/47 "2023-05-30T13:47:15Z")
So there’s the UCP, NDP and you said 13 other parties in play? The reason I’m asking: on Google, they only list a few and some are uhmm defunct. ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/48 "2023-05-30T13:55:30Z")
In Edmonton and Calgary, the UCP took 12 out of 46 seats. A real big-city weakness. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/49 "2023-05-30T14:12:11Z")
> [@TheTooth](#): > > Madness. Absolute folly. And we had the United States as an object lesson as well. Look on the bright side – at least Notley isn’t going around claiming the election was “rigged”! 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/50 "2023-05-30T14:26:45Z")
You can’t handle TheTooth! (Sorry. Just wanted to say that. As a medical man you could guess my opinions. I would like lower taxes and smaller government too, but not at the expense of compassion nor necessary services.) Not at all surprised, except maybe a little bit by Calgary. But the patch speaks loudly. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/51 "2023-05-30T14:30:28Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > But the patch speaks loudly. Well, as I said before, many people “know” that the NDP caused the world price of oil to plummet last time they were in government. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/52 "2023-05-30T14:30:45Z")
Notmey. ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/53 "2023-05-30T14:41:45Z")
I see no bright side to coddling the likes of Take Back Alberta or letting hospitals collapse. I just hope Smith’s policies don’t ruin the lives of too many non-UCP supporters. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/54 "2023-05-30T14:57:42Z")
While I don’t agree with the result, it appears to have been a free and fair election. There were a few minor shenanigans (mainly sign destruction), but all in all, this appears to be Alberta’s choice. But I think they have chosen… poorly. The UCP is going to make the lives for anybody not rich more miserable. Higher costs for less services, but again, this is what they wanted to combat “wokeism”. I certainly won’t be moving to Alberta anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/55 "2023-05-30T15:14:22Z")
The failure of the Left to take advantage of a partially insane opponent is a major thread by itself. But the anti-woke sentiment is a real thing across not only among right-wingers, but centrists and swing-voters. It is, I believe, a reaction to decades of demands by special interest groups and the ceding of power to them. ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/56 "2023-05-30T15:31:16Z")
It’s not the left’s fault conservatives are not rational people. They’re grownups, they can see for themselves what Smith is like just as well as I can. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/57 "2023-05-30T17:19:12Z")
You can tell how organized a party is by how many candidates they can field; in this election the UCP and NDP were the only parties able to pull enough people to contest the full 87 seats in the legislature. The [Greens](https://www.greenpartyofalberta.ca/) couldn’t muster half of that (41), the [Liberals](https://www.albertaliberal.com/) not even half of that (13). This was mostly a two party race with ample choice for protest voting. We got yer crypto-Liberals ([Alberta Party](https://www.albertaparty.ca/)), yer commies ([Communist Party](http://www.communistparty-alberta.ca/)), yer religious cults/fanatics ([Solidarity Movement](https://solidaritymovementofalberta.ca/)/[Pro-Life Alberta](https://prolifealberta.com/)), TWO provincial separatist parties ([Wildrose](https://www.wildrosenation.com/) or [Alberta](https://www.abindependence.com/)), and the rest are a hodge-podge of the provincially centric nutjob rightwing ([Wildrose Loyalty](https://wildroseloyaltycoalition.com/), [Advantage](https://albertaadvantageparty.ca/), [Reform](https://reformalberta.com/), and [Buffalo](https://buffalopartyab.ca/)). ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/58 "2023-05-30T17:20:19Z")
I don’t think you can interpret these results this way. Alberta is _overwhelmingly_ conservative, and this was a very close election. A couple of thousand votes in Calgary made the difference. The NDP only won last time because of a vote division between two conservative parties. The fact that they made this close is remarkable and speaks to Smith’s unlikability. ---
**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/59 "2023-05-30T17:27:27Z")
IIRC, the CBC did a poll a few days before E day and their poll showed 52% for the cons and 44% NDP. The final results were almost identical. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610/60 "2023-05-30T17:54:52Z")
Here is a reasonable summary of the election for non-Canadians. > **[United Conservatives’ narrow Alberta win sets up conflict with Trudeau](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/30/alberta-canada-new-conservative-party-win-trudeau)** > > Party leader and Alberta premier Danielle Smith used victory speech to attack the prime minister’s climate policies [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alberta-votes-on-monday-may-29-thoughts-predictions/984610.md?page=4)