# Alcohol that nobody has made? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** liquor-alcohol\ **Created:** [December 1, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023 "2024-12-01T17:22:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/61 "2024-12-02T21:40:08Z")
It’s called feni or fenny in India. I’ve seen a commercial bottle of it that looks like the fruit. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/62 "2024-12-02T22:03:40Z")
I would have expected the recipe to start with Skittles soda [![](https://i5.walmartimages.com/seo/Skittles-Flavored-Drink-Variety-Box-Four-Pack-Original-Sour-Tropical-Wild-Berry-14-oz-Bottle-1-of-Each-Flavor_4a3821f5-a524-46df-beec-bac7d8468f4b.5099ed428efb861e2661763022005592.jpeg) ](https://i5.walmartimages.com/seo/Skittles-Flavored-Drink-Variety-Box-Four-Pack-Original-Sour-Tropical-Wild-Berry-14-oz-Bottle-1-of-Each-Flavor_4a3821f5-a524-46df-beec-bac7d8468f4b.5099ed428efb861e2661763022005592.jpeg) just make it alcoholic. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/63 "2024-12-02T22:09:54Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Anyone do kiwi (the fruit, not the bird) or starfruit? Bananas? Carrots? Kiwi: King Kiwi Tropical Fruit Wine, Florida Orange Groves Winery Starfruit: [Brewing Starfruit Wine](https://amysukwan.substack.com/p/brewing-starfruit-wine) Banana: [Banana Wine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_wine) Carrot: [How To Make Carrot Wine](https://insteading.com/blog/how-to-make-carrot-wine/) > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I give you _Kudzu_. [Kudzu Flower & Muscadine Wine](https://www.pixiespocket.com/2016/09/kudzu-flower-muscadine-wine.html) ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/64 "2024-12-02T22:58:01Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > many other things are grass Sugarcane, for instance, so rum and other feemented distilled cane juice spirits are also grass. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/65 "2024-12-03T02:55:27Z")
You may very well have made your own vinegar. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/66 "2024-12-03T02:58:25Z")
Flying reindeer notwithstanding, I’d like to know how they found THIS out. TL : DR - it’s about the Siberian tribe that discovered that the renal metabolite of a certain mushroom has hallucinogenic properties. > **[The Influence of Hallucinogenic Mushrooms on Christmas | Fungi Foundation Blog](https://www.ffungi.org/blog/the-influence-of-hallucinogenic-mushrooms-on-christmas)** > > The Influence of Hallucinogenic Mushrooms on Christmas ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/67 "2024-12-03T03:36:38Z")
How many of these are made by fermenting the thing in question, and how many are made by flavoring something like neutral spirits? ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/68 "2024-12-03T03:59:42Z")
I have read that it’s common for hallucinogens to produce spiritual visions. The mushrooms on Patmos, where John had the vision written about in Revelation, are a species of psilocybin mushrooms. Also see peyote and sacred datura. As for how they found out that they could get it from reindeer pee, they saw the reindeer eat the mushrooms without the problems they had , so gave it a try. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/69 "2024-12-03T16:12:38Z")
Last night, **Mrs Magill** told me about a place in East Nashville, Donut Distillery, where you can pair doughnuts and beer or spirits. Which got me thinking. There is a lot of sugar in doughnuts, and some are made with yeast. In theory, you could make a beer or wine out of doughnuts. You would probably need to add brewers’ yeast, because you would definitely want to boil the wort. I just did a cursory search, and only came up with doughnut flavored beer, but no no doughnut beer. Would any brave souls like to give it a try? ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/70 "2024-12-03T17:33:52Z")
I’d recommend the reddit page r/prisonhooch for all these inquiries. Sure enough, it’s been tried, though I didn’t immediately find any updates on if it’s _good_. ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/71 "2024-12-03T17:35:06Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > So watery, and yet there’s a smack of ham to it. Ah, yes. And wiener water. That is definitely a thing. A guy I worked with who was basically a displaced hillbilly told me a few times about using the wiener water to flavor something or other. I once told him that my Mom used to buy a whole baloney and smoke it and it tasted just like ham. Little did I realize that he took this to heart and tried it. I don’t think he ever forgave me. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/72 "2024-12-03T18:22:00Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Which got me thinking. There is a lot of sugar in doughnuts, and some are made with yeast. In theory, you could make a beer or wine out of doughnuts. I would expect that baking kills the yeast. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/73 "2024-12-03T19:18:17Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > I would expect that baking kills the yeast. Yeah - I had reconsidered. I imagine the frying process would kill nearly all of the yeast. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/74 "2024-12-03T19:28:13Z")
Yeast is a cannibal, an old school brewing method is to boil some baker’s yeast and add it to the must for nutrients (“yeast ghosts”) that non-boiled yeast can use. Nowadays there’s better brewing nutrients, but it’s still sometimes done. Within an already baked and prepared product, it’s a different issue, there’s not “free” yeast but it might help in some fashion. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/75 "2024-12-03T19:46:49Z")
> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#): > > How many of these are made by fermenting the thing in question, and how many are made by flavoring something like neutral spirits? I’m guessing most maple liqueurs are made by adding maple flavoring to Canadian rye, but you can make alcohol straight from the syrup. > **[How Kevin Sapthre Turns Maple Syrup Into Whiskey | Alcohol Professor](https://www.alcoholprofessor.com/blog-posts/maple-syrup-whiskey-miskey)** > > At Sapthre Maple Products in Adams, Minnesota, maple syrup is distilled into a unique alcoholic spirit that owner Kevin Sathre has coined “miskey.” ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/76 "2024-12-03T20:33:31Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > adding maple flavoring to Canadian rye Which is only sometimes made from actual rye plants, for an added layer of complexity. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/77 "2024-12-04T05:23:00Z")
Nice! Thank you for that. The article addresses a topic that we’ve always considered an old wives’ tale: namely, that you shouldn’t drink alcohol with durian or it will make you sick. We never found that to be a problematic prescription, mostly because we didn’t have any frantic desire to combine the two, especially in quantity. But yes - in years past, we have definitely had both durian and a bit of beer or wine. No humans were harmed in the consumption of both. However, it’s good to know that it might be a good idea not to push boundaries. A glass of wine, a slurp of durian, no problem. Three beers and two lobes of durian? Maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/78 "2024-12-08T06:42:18Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > It made me wonder, if I wanted to start selling a type of alcohol that has never been commercially produced before, how hard would it be for me to find something unique that also would produce something people would be willing to pay for. Thinking a bit outside of the box, you could make a commercial beer or other alcohol that was produced entirely outside the atmosphere, Low Earth Orbit or higher. I mean, there’s been [quite a few experiments](https://insidethecask.com/2019/05/27/alcohol-in-space/#:~:text=That%20Boutique%2Dy%20Gin%20Company,%E2%80%93%20The%20Times%20(requires%20subscription)) with yeasts, seeds and other components sent out of the atmosphere or to orbit, which are brought back and used to brew various “space” alcohols, but AFAIK nothing produced on the commercial level in space. Might be easiest option short of breeding / genetically engineering a new fermentable. – no one leak this to Musk – 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023/79 "2024-12-13T05:44:27Z")
Amusingly, considering my suggestion of only 5 days ago, this showed up in my CNN feed: > **[Sake made in space could sell for $500,000 a glass | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/12/science/sake-space-japan-launch-intl-hnk/index.html)** > > A Japanese sake maker is going where no sake maker has gone before: space. So if the OP wants to win via space Sake, they need to make some deals ASAP. Otherwise, they’ll have to try a different SPAAAAAAAAAAACCEEEEE booze. ---
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OK, I have the definitive answer to the OP-- nobody has ever made alcohol out of insects! Let’s take, just as a random example, tent caterpillars. Surely nobody has ever attempted to make alcohol out of those! Oh, wait… > **[Tent Caterpillar Wine | Walter Reeves: The Georgia Gardener](https://www.walterreeves.com/insects-and-animals/tent-caterpillar-wine/)** > > The image above is not a tent caterpillar (see image below) but if you have tent caterpillars in your cherry trees, the tents and crawly worms are enough for some folks. Taking the "yuck factor" even further, though, is the person who decided to make... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alcohol-that-nobody-has-made/1011023.md?page=5)