# Alec Baldwin \[accidentally\] Kills Crew Member with Prop Gun {2021-10-21}

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** breaking-news\
**Created:** [October 22, 2021, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960 "2021-10-22T02:38:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/21 "2021-10-22T03:46:18Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I hate Alec Baldwin and hope he does hard time in prison. -

Without even know the details of how it happened?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/22 "2021-10-22T03:47:25Z")

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I don’t need to know the details. He’s a scumbag.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/23 "2021-10-22T04:04:31Z")

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Vic morrow was decapitated by a helicopter blade. And john landis was acquitted.

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/24 "2021-10-22T04:04:36Z")

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Yeah since they’re filming an old west movie, if they’re using a black powder style weapon I could see something like the barrel exploded causing shrapnel forward but not actually causing any rearward damage since the black powder isn’t as powerful as modern gun powder.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/25 "2021-10-22T04:09:52Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I don’t need to know the details. He’s a scumbag.

So you figure things like guilt or innocence are just unimportant details?

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/26 "2021-10-22T04:11:15Z")

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The important part was that he was charged for negligence.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/27 "2021-10-22T04:15:00Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8J0-ZatDHug/hqdefault.jpg "Alec Balwin phone call to daughter") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J0-ZatDHug)

He’s a fucking scumbag, but go ahead and defend him because he’s ‘on our side’

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/28 "2021-10-22T04:18:40Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> He’s a fucking scumbag, but go ahead and defend him because he’s ‘on our side’ -

I doubt there’s a parent alive who hasn’t said stupid shit to their kids while enraged. Or posted stupid shit to a message board.

Has nothing to do with “sides”.

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/29 "2021-10-22T04:22:27Z")

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I’m seeing people on Twitter **DEMAND** they stop using “real” guns in films but that seems like a really knee-jerk reaction to a freak accident that happens so rarely the last time this happened was in the 90’s.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/30 "2021-10-22T04:23:30Z")

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I never thought I’d read anything here like that “I don’t need to know the details. He’s a scumbag.” comment.

I posted my question for **asahi** directly to [his Pit thread…](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/403)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/31 "2021-10-22T04:25:44Z")

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Moderating:

> [@asahi](#):
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> I hate Alec Baldwin and hope he does hard time in prison.

> [@asahi](#):
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> I don’t need to know the details. He’s a scumbag.

> [@asahi](#):
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> He’s a fucking scumbag, but go ahead and defend him because he’s ‘on our side’

CS is not one of my forums, but you’ve been flagged repeatedly due to your thoughtless posts in this thread so I’m going ahead.

You’re not in P&E, and you’re not in the Pit. All of the above posts are off topic and wholly inappropriate.

I’m banning you from this thread. Make another post here and I’ll suspend you from the forum instead.

I’m leaving the flags for CS mods to review.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/32 "2021-10-22T04:28:07Z")

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Good God – we’re not allowed to express opinions anymore?! What the fuck?! I didn’t violate any rules; I’m just not popular.

Fuck it - I get it. Enjoy your declining membership. Fuck you and go to hell.

I’m done.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/33 "2021-10-22T04:29:32Z")

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While his language is a bit harsh he isnt wrong. Alec Baldwin has a very checkered past filled with rage and violence.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/34 "2021-10-22T04:29:37Z")

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Way to miss the point. Goodbye.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/35 "2021-10-22T04:33:04Z")

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This isnt a Disney board. This board has always been place where snark and harsh judgment have been common. If the modding is tranding towards TWOP style restrictions its bad for everyone.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/36 "2021-10-22T04:33:27Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> While his language is a bit harsh he isnt wrong. Alec Baldwin has a very checkered past filled with rage and violence.

Please don’t argue moderation in this thread. If you want to take issue with the decision, please do so in ATMB.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/37 "2021-10-22T04:46:14Z")

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Was perusing some forums where movie industry types post and it was mentioned that this film’s contract tier was one of the lowest possible, which means all of the technical staff on set are making basically minimum pay rates for the industry, or nearly so. This likely means the technical staff who maintain props and make sure things like firearms on set are handled safely…are not the best people in the field.

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/38 "2021-10-22T05:27:59Z")

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You know what, I also think Alec Baldwin should sit on a tack.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/39 "2021-10-22T05:30:04Z")

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Whatever anybody thinks of Alec Baldwin, I cannot even imagine how devastated he must be right now.

I’m sure the truth will out soon enough. If he was actually at fault, he should of course face consequences. If someone else was negligent in preparing the prop, Baldwin deserves our sympathy.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-accidentally-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun-2021-10-21/952960/40 "2021-10-22T05:30:29Z")

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That was doubly tragic, and in violation of multiple laws, because it happened in the middle of the night and involved small children.

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