Alec Baldwin [accidentally] Kills Crew Member with Prop Gun {2021-10-21}

Think back to jobs some people have when they were around 24. A job where they blew off days & didn’t show up? A job they took about as seriously as jobs were taken seriously in ‘Clerks’? A job that was only landed due to Nepotism…?

'Nuff said, close sesame…

It’s not just the hours – some of the crew never did get local accommodations. Citing some of the tweets, the Daily Mail article says “Union members vented on social media before the tragedy about the poor conditions on the set of the film. They talked about having to sleep in their cars at the set rather than make the drive back to Albuquerque because they were too exhausted.”

Again: been there. Multiple times. Slept in a kitchen at the Hilton Garden in Monterey once rather than drive back to Santa Cruz and then back to Monterey 6 hours later, for example.

It isn’t right and it isn’t cool, but it happens.

People not in the business don’t really realize just how hard it is. That these conditions exist and that the conditions that led to this tragedy exist are not at all surprising to me.

Apparently a lot of safety issues on set. But this whole situation is just sad. Love or hate him, no one should have to go through this and carry this trauma. As for the people shot, what a damn tragedy.

I would put that number higher. The film crew should have received that training on this and any previous set. It’s probably why they walked out. It wasn’t being adhered to. As the Director and also a seasoned actor Baldwin should have insisted on the armorer handling the prop and demonstrating it’s safe condition.

If this movie represented a post civil war era then a single action Colt 45 would have been the simplest gun to use. It was popular and easily obtained.

The misspelling of “led” is tragically appropriate. How do semi-literates like this get employed as journalists?

Ya know, there’s a link in the OP, and if you click on it you’ll see,
and injured director Joel Souza

Note that if I follow @GreenWyvern’s link to the Daily Mail story, it’s apparently since been edited to correct that.

Though this bit from the Daily Mail article was interesting,

‘I almost didn’t take the job because I wasn’t sure if I was ready, but doing it, it went really smoothly,’ Hannah Gutierrez-Reed said in a podcast interview last month after leading the firearms department for The Old Way, starring Nicolas Cage - her first time as head armorer.

She also admitted in the podcast interview she found loading blanks into a gun ‘the scariest’ thing because she did not know how to do it and had sought help from her father, legendary gunsmith Thell Reed, to get over the fear.

Good to hear somebody’s paying attention.

Side note: my local paper, now gobbled up by a consortium and actually housed in another state, was excoriated for a headline that said “were their at” when “where they are” was wanted.

I am desperately trying to find the link, but my searches are overwhelmingly dominated by newer hits. I read an article claiming that Baldwin had also complained about conditions on the set and the treatment of the workers, but the production company leadership dismissed his concerns just the same as the rest of the crew. So if that’s true, he’s clearly not the “boss” here.

The Daily Mail article linked above says Baldwin told the crew to strike.

How the fuck does someone that “found loading blanks into a gun ‘the scariest’ thing because she did not know how to do it” become an armorer let alone a head one???

Daddy’s resume.

And this was only the second film on which she worked as armorer. Given that it’s her dad’s profession, what about practicing with him at home or shadowing him on set before taking on the role?

I recall JMS being very proud of the fact that in shooting all five seasons of Babylon 5, they’d never had to work weekends and worked past midnight on a Friday only twice.

Of course with a 5 or 6am call for actors in prosthetics, that can still be a long day.

Alec Baldwin made a video just 4 days ago, strongly supporting IATSE, and saying they should go on strike if they need to, they have been treated terribly, etc. etc.

Yet at the very same time, union members on his own movie were being treated so badly that they walked out, and were replaced by non-union members – and apparently Baldwin he did nothing to stand up for them.

Alec Baldwin Instagram video (watch from about 8:10)

Is he a total hypocrite?

So I see 12 producers on the film, they do tend to give these titles out like candy.
Is it his project or was he given the Title and a share of the profits for a lower salary like happens so often?

Produced by

Alec Baldwin producer
Kc Brandenstein co-producer
Allen Cheney executive producer
Matt DelPiano producer
Tyler Gould executive producer
Matthew Helderman executive producer
Nathan Klingher producer
Anjul Nigam producer
Emily Hunter Salveson executive producer
Ryan Donnell Smith producer
Luke Taylor executive producer
Ryan Winterstern producer

As was noted earlier (by Cartooniverse, I think), “producer” and “executive producer” are usually two different sorts of titles on a film, and the latter is typically given to someone who helps secure financing for the film.

My understanding (possibly flawed) is that most of the time, an executive producer has little (or no) involvement with the actual production itself. (FWIW, Steve Mnuchin, who was the Secretary of the Treasury in the Trump Administration, has been “executive producer” on dozens of films; he’s a financier, not a movie guy.)

Further it is my understanding that en Executive Producer is involved with the non-artistic parts of a production like making sure everybody gets paid and the caterer has the proper health certification so the whole crew doesn’t come down with food poisoning.