# Alec Baldwin and his promise **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2004, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026 "2004-02-19T16:13:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/41 "2004-02-19T22:52:16Z")
> [@bosnywash1](#): > > 1. the Conan o’brien thing was mocking himself from before. So, your statement that “he wants him dead” was referring to some pre-Conan incident? Please provide a cite for this incident, I cannot find one. I do not think there was one, and you are confused. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/42 "2004-02-19T23:00:44Z")
> [@bosnywash1](#): > > I DON’T CARE ABOUT HIS BELIEFS. HE’S BULLYING, USING HIS CHEAP CELEBRITY AS A PULPIT TO TELL ME HOW MUCH SMARTER HE IS THAN ME, AND HOW WE SHOULD DO WHAT HE SAYS. THAT’S WHAT I DISLIKE. I have rocks in my garden smarter than you. Someone’s just jealous no one cares what he thinks. Don’t bother to reply to me, send all responses to my Republican Actor Governor. ---
**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/43 "2004-02-19T23:16:08Z")
> [@bosnywash1](#): > > We know everything you say will end with “I hate Bush”. This is not about your leanings. This is about LOUDMOUTHED CELEBRITIES. So…what’s your take on LOUDMOUTH ANONYMOUS INTERNET YAHOOS? Why is your pushy opinion more valid or important than theirs? Aren’t you trying to convince us to agree with you? Sure, I don’t know Alec Baldwin, so I shouldn’t necessarily have any respect for his positions, but what the hell makes your position superior? ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/44 "2004-02-19T23:38:41Z")
No one every complains about James Woods spouting off on his (right-wing) politics. I’d add Dennis Miller but people do complain about him. The Alec Baldwin thing is easy to piece together: 1. German tabloid claims Basinger said Baldwin will leave the US if Bush wins. 2. AB: “What? I never said any such thing. Further more my wife never spoke to them.” 3. KB: “Uh, honey, I did speak to them. Didn’t you get my text message?” 4. The Next Day. AB: “OK, she did speak to them. I still never said anything like that.” 5. Headline hungry reporters: “Did you hear that? Alec Baldwin hates America!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/45 "2004-02-19T23:41:39Z")
Please, do not use all caps when writing. There are excellent features for making the text **bold** or in _italics_ for emphasism. Since you only bring up ‘liberal’ actors and fail to name the ‘conservative’ actors, I _do_ think you have an agenda, other than the celebrity status, but I’ll stick to your game and throw one right back at ya: So actors, directors and artists in general should stay out of politics. By the same logic, do you think that politicians should refrain from voicing opinions about the arts? He’s kinda fun, our new pony, isn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/46 "2004-02-19T23:49:43Z")
> [@bosnywash1](#): > > I DON’T CARE ABOUT HIS BELIEFS. That’s been evident since your OP. > [@](#): > > HE’S BULLYING, USING HIS CHEAP CELEBRITY AS A PULPIT TO TELL ME HOW MUCH SMARTER HE IS THAN ME, AND HOW WE SHOULD DO WHAT HE SAYS. THAT’S WHAT I DISLIKE. Evident, again, is the notion that Baldwin, rather than merely espousing a viewpoint that is a shade or five away from being in total support of GWB, has become a celebrity purely so he can appear in movies to bully you and shove the brunt of his intellectual power in your face. PH34R T3H 841D//1N. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/47 "2004-02-19T23:54:47Z")
Further evidence that anyone who listens to anything actors have to say about politics is an idiot, wether they agree with the actor or not. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/48 "2004-02-20T01:25:24Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Did Alec Baldwin steal your girlfriend or something? No, but he has stolen many hours of my life with his crappy movies. Have you seen _The Marrying Man_? It’s terrible! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/49 "2004-02-20T01:27:33Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Further evidence that anyone who listens to anything actors have to say about politics is an idiot, wether they agree with the actor or not. What does that make us Californians? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/50 "2004-02-20T01:53:34Z")
> [@Airblairxxx](#): > > What does that make us Californians? Dunno, but i’m currently a citizen in a rebel city that has the audacity to let people who love each other marry, and is suing the state to continue that right, so that makes me proud to live here even if my governor was Carrot Top. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/51 "2004-02-20T02:04:19Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > OK, some Iraqis danced in the streets. Others (in case you’re not up on current events) are blowing our boys up every day. I’d say our reception has been mixed, at best, and let Garofolo off the hook on this one. > > I think she also included “finding WMD” as part of the condition, and there’s nothing mixed about that one. Not quite a fair observation I would say. I imagine the ratio of those who are happy we are there to the ones (if indeed they really are Iraqis) blowing our soldiers up are roughly 5,000:1. As far as Garofolo, I can’t let her off the hook. She’s too angry, too indignant, too close-minded and too often in my face. Part of the price you may have to pay if you’re a celebrity taking in-your-face stances on things is that you are going to annoy and/or alienate people. I’m one of those people. I also think most of the time she doesn’t know what she’s talking about. I used to like her, but now I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/52 "2004-02-20T02:10:13Z")
> [@bosnywash1](#): > > I DON’T CARE ABOUT HIS BELIEFS. HE’S BULLYING, USING HIS CHEAP CELEBRITY AS A PULPIT TO TELL ME HOW MUCH SMARTER HE IS THAN ME, AND HOW WE SHOULD DO WHAT HE SAYS. THAT’S WHAT I DISLIKE. I’m not a celebrity. However, I’m smarter than you. I say this not because I’m some kind of genius, but because you’re a blithering jackass. _–waves hand–_ Begone, and darken our towels no more. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/53 "2004-02-20T03:02:33Z")
> [@Airblairxxx](#): > > What does that make us Californians? “Screwed”. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/54 "2004-02-20T03:06:22Z")
> [@bosnywash1](#): > > I am NOT saying Alec Baldwin can’t have a political point of view. I object to loudmotuh celebrities thinking just because their famous they can dictate how people will vote. Barbara Streisand, Ted Nugent, Alec Baldwin…the list goes on and on of idiots trying to froce their opinions down my throat about the world. You truly are an idiot. Dictate how people will vote??? Simply by voicing their opinions??? _Force their opinions down the throat of the world???_ When the fuck did this happen??? BTW, it’s killing you that Baldwin is up for an Oscar, isn’t it? he he. I hope he wins, just to see your torment… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/55 "2004-02-20T03:46:35Z")
> [@](#): > > I hate obnoxious bullies who expect you to do their bidding simply because they say so. … I went to write a witty reply, but my irony detector exploded and I had to go to the shop to get it fixed. Wow. > [@](#): > > She’s too angry, too indignant, too close-minded and too often in my face. Part of the price you may have to pay if you’re a celebrity taking in-your-face stances on things is that you are going to annoy and/or alienate people. She seems more than willing to pay it. She doesn’t hide her opinions, and she doesn’t kiss anyone’s ass and offer insincere, bullshit apologies. I would also add that you can always CHANGE THE FUCKING CHANNEL, IDIOT. A celebrity you don’t know personally cannot get in your face. It’s impossible. You have to give them the opportunity. If you don’t like Janeane Garofalo, stop watching her stuff. She’s never done any really political movies, so don’t watch her specials or shows she’s being interviewed on. This is not fucking brain surgery here: avoid her! What a dumb-ass complaint. This is YOUR fault. Baldwin can say whatever he wants. If you don’t like it, ignore him or watch some other late night talk show. It’s not like there’s a shortage of them out there. If you’d never seen him before and his opinions caught you off-guard, that’s one thing. But the people bitching here have clearly been watching the celebs they don’t like over and over again, and paying attention to their statements in the press. Stop wasting your time, fucko! An example: on the rare occasions I’ve seen Bill O’Reilly, or been show his stuff in print, I’ve found him to be an obnoxious blowhard. You know why I’ve never pitted him? I don’t watch his show. Why the fuck would I when I don’t fucking like him or care about what he thinks? I guess now I should go start a pit thread about **bosnywash1** forcing his opinion down my throat by _making_ me read this stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/56 "2004-02-20T04:06:19Z")
> [@Tars Tarkas](#): > > so that makes me proud to live here even if my governor was Carrot Top. Easy there, **Tars**. Let’s not say things we can’t take back. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/57 "2004-02-20T04:39:35Z")
> [@marley23](#): > > She doesn’t hide her opinions, and she doesn’t kiss anyone’s ass and offer insincere, bullshit apologies. No, and she doesn’t follow through on what she says she’ll do either. I’m still waiting for her to crawl up to Bush through broken glass and apologize like she said she would. (I’ve never heard about the WMD excuse until tonight. Probably something she or her advisors cooked up ala Baldwin’s “I didn’t say that, my wife did” alibi.) > [@marley23](#): > > She seems more than willing to pay it. She doesn’t hide her opinions, and she doesn’t kiss anyone’s ass and offer insincere, bullshit apologies. I would also add that you can always CHANGE THE FUCKING CHANNEL, IDIOT. > > A celebrity you don’t know personally cannot get in your face. It’s impossible. You have to give them the opportunity. If you don’t like Janeane Garofalo, stop watching her stuff. She’s never done any really political movies, so don’t watch her specials or shows she’s being interviewed on. This is not fucking brain surgery here: avoid her! > > What a dumb-ass complaint. This is YOUR fault. Baldwin can say whatever he wants. If you don’t like it, ignore him or watch some other late night talk show. It’s not like there’s a shortage of them out there. If you’d never seen him before and his opinions caught you off-guard, that’s one thing. But the people bitching here have clearly been watching the celebs they don’t like over and over again, and paying attention to their statements in the press. Stop wasting your time, fucko! Hmmm…ragged on your favorite fuck fantasy did I, Fuckface? Now as to your imbicilic post: Apparently you are so enraged that I insulted this humorless, simple-minded, idiotic, hypocritical, alchoholic object of your affection that you can’t realize people don’t always have a choice whether or not to watch when one of these imbeciles appears on the t.v. News and entertainment programs often insert clips of them spouting their inanities in the middle of a segment in which they necessarily list every single person they were going to show that night. And sometimes, other people or events can be going on that I do want to hear about and would miss if I changed channels to avoid this nitwit (and believe me, most of the time I can’t change the channel fast enough if I know she’s coming on). And I’m fully aware Baldwin can say whatever he wants, dipshit. So can I, asshole. If you have anything intelligent to add to the discussion I’ll be glad to listen, but if you think you’re going to get anywhere insulting me and critisizing me for speaking my mind while simultaneously defending the rights of someone else for doing the exact same thing, you can kiss my ass, Buttpipe! ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/58 "2004-02-20T04:39:28Z")
I think we were supposed to be reading from the Let’s Bash Vocal Liberal Celebrities For Six Pages script, but y’know, I just can’t seem to locate my copy. Can’t we just talk about _Omega Man_ instead? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/59 "2004-02-20T04:44:18Z")
make that: they \*don’t \* necessarily list…etc. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026/60 "2004-02-20T13:48:21Z")
Feh. I can’t even remember the last time I saw her on anything. Anywhere. The point is, the only “stars” who have tried to shove anything down anyone’s throat are Regan, Ahhnold, and Sonny Fucking Bono. Oh. And Gopher from the fucking Love Boat. They’re the only ones in a position to shove anything anywhere. Get a fucking grip already. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-and-his-promise/230026.md?page=4)