# Alex Jones gets cyber-slapped **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 7, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202 "2018-08-07T00:42:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/201 "2018-08-08T20:02:37Z")
> [@Crazy\_Canuck](#): > > So you’re not fucking the chicken, you are just engaging in carnal relations with it. You are advising people to accept injustice because of the possibility of negative repercussions. That makes you a yellow-bellied coward, so just own that shit. I’m not asking them to do anything. Oh you’re one of those evangelical “anarchists” who want to dictate to people what they should do. The Mountain Dew anarchist. The schoolmarm anarchist I guess. One can engage in civil disobedience without putting themselves out there. One can calmly chip away at your ignorance until you and most of society exhibits an appropriate morality. > [@](#): > > You are also a fucking embarrassment to anarchists everywhere. An anarcho-capitalist who “puts little faith in political activism” is nothing more than a libertarian with delusions of being a badass. I have no such delusions. Proper libertarianism is anarchism. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/202 "2018-08-08T20:05:41Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > If George Washington and James Madison are Marxists…maybe I should consider it. > > While most people who are Republican are not nationalists, the party or at least those in control of the party today are. Absolutely. And you know the funny thing ? Counter-revolution ALWAYS precedes revolution. It’s unintuitive, but it’s historically true. Buckle up, Abigail, it’s gonna be a wild ride. Hopefully. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/203 "2018-08-08T20:23:56Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > No. Most of our interactions in a society occur under anarchy. It would be very easy for someone to rob me. They usually don’t. Because the threat of punishment stops them. If there was no threat of punishment, I suspect you would get robbed a lot more often. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/204 "2018-08-08T20:27:42Z")
Let’s see how long it takes one or more of the Sinclairs, Murdochs, Kochs, or Mercers to set up another platform for Jones and other right wing nut jobs. After Jones called for the assassination of Bob Mueller I would have been sorely disappointed if he had managed to keep his platforms. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/205 "2018-08-08T20:36:01Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Let’s see how long it takes one or more of the Sinclairs, Murdochs, Kochs, or Mercers to set up another platform for Jones and other right wing nut jobs. > > After Jones called for the assassination of Bob Mueller I would have been sorely disappointed if he had managed to keep his platforms. Twitter specifically said he hasn’t violated their ToS. “We didn’t suspend Alex Jones or Infowars yesterday. We know that’s hard for many but the reason is simple: he hasn’t violated our rules. We’ll enforce if he does. And we’ll continue to promote a healthy conversational environment by ensuring tweets aren’t artificially amplified.” > ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/206 "2018-08-08T20:39:16Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Government isn’t a daddy that tells you to get along with your brother. Democracy polarizes culture because it pits citizens against citizens in a slow-burn civil war for control of the state apparatus. You’re not even remotely making sense here. So a democracy - any and every which one - naturally pits people against each other, and cooperation is somehow not in the human spirit? Is that what you’re saying? There’s no way to control the worst of our impulses, so why bother? Why have laws and rules? That’s just a profoundly ignorant and insular worldview. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/207 "2018-08-08T20:45:54Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I have no interest in MAGAing. I would prefer the dissolution of the US and a return to the city-state with rural areas existing in a state of capitalist anarchy. Then move to the delightful anarchy of Somalia and stop advocating fucking this country up. Stop being a coward and show us all how it’s done. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/208 "2018-08-08T20:51:43Z")
And Jack Dorsey of Twitter is going to go on Hannity to talk abut not banning Alex Jones. Perfect show, makes sense if he’s going on Hannity that he has an agenda behind the not-banning. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/209 "2018-08-08T20:53:27Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > You said I was a terrorist. I called you dumb. I don’t think either of those opinions are going to change as long as you keep trying to explain yourself. I’m clearly smarter than _you_, but that’s neither here nor there. I note the complete lack of substantive response to my analysis concluding that you are encouraging your political opponents to bow down to terrorism. Based on this I conclude that you have no refutation. ---
**Author:** ![Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reindeer_flotilla/32/3024_2.png) [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reindeer_Flotilla)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/210 "2018-08-08T21:17:44Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > No. Most of our interactions in a society occur under anarchy. It would be very easy for someone to rob me. They usually don’t. I’ll buy that idiocy for a dollar! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/211 "2018-08-08T21:39:11Z")
Under WillFarnaby’s preferred system, these companies could terminate Alex Jones’ use of their networks with extreme prejudice. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/212 "2018-08-08T21:42:43Z")
It is mildly amusing how the people who tend to call people Marxists the most are begging the state to force private companies to provide them with free services. Are they admitting that they are fascists who want government-linked companies or are they also closet Marxists? either way the “it is my right to have free stuff” argument is ironic even if it is typical to the libertarian mindset. ---
**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/213 "2018-08-08T22:24:01Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > (…) I would prefer the dissolution of the US and a return to the city-state with rural areas existing in a state of capitalist anarchy. Let’s see if your idea has any merits. Since you talk about a _return_ to a city-state of such a kind, you must have at least one historical example in mind. So, what city-state is it, and what period are you talking about? And could you also name the research that is the foundation of your assertion? ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/214 "2018-08-08T22:57:11Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I’m not asking them to do anything. Oh you’re one of those evangelical “anarchists” who want to dictate to people what they should do. The Mountain Dew anarchist. The schoolmarm anarchist I guess. One can engage in civil disobedience without putting themselves out there. One can calmly chip away at your ignorance until you and most of society exhibits an appropriate morality. > > I have no such delusions. Proper libertarianism is anarchism. No, libertarians are _right-wing_ anti-authoritarians. Anarchists are _left-wing_ anti-authoritarians. Bad enough people are trying to convice folks that the Nazis were Socialists. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/215 "2018-08-09T00:38:49Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Many governments have outlawed “hate speech”, so I find it necessary to police the term. > [@Crazy\_Canuck](#): > > You are advising people to accept injustice because of the possibility of negative repercussions. That makes you a yellow-bellied coward, so just own that shit. > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I’m not asking them to do anything. Oh, ok, **WF** , it’s good you’re only ‘policing’, then, and none of those damning, outright entreaties. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/216 "2018-08-09T03:00:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > YouTube and Apple may have claimed to have banned Jones, but they still have the Infowars app on their app stores. He was not “banned”, his content was removed and associated accounts were closed (meaning new material could not be added). The Infowars app looks like it is essentially a nice webskin (basically, a specific-website viewing tool). Using it is not involving Apple’s servers, network or branding, so removing it would not be worthwhile (petty, even) – and besides, it is a 99cent app, so Apple makes money off its sales (which might increase, in light of the publicity). ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/217 "2018-08-09T10:55:11Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Then move to the delightful anarchy of Somalia and stop advocating fucking this country up. Stop being a coward and show us all how it’s done. How does what I describe exist in Somalia? Capitalism has barely extended into that region. > [@begbert2](#): > > I’m clearly smarter than _you_, but that’s neither here nor there. > > I note the complete lack of substantive response to my analysis concluding that you are encouraging your political opponents to bow down to terrorism. Based on this I conclude that you have no refutation. You are still trying? I didn’t say bow down, but _I would give the same advice to people who are in my camp_. I stated this already. Let me make this easy for you. That alone refuted your nonsense. > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Under WillFarnaby’s preferred system, these companies could terminate Alex Jones’ use of their networks with extreme prejudice. Yes. > [@wintertime](#): > > Let’s see if your idea has any merits. Since you talk about a _return_ to a city-state of such a kind, you must have at least one historical example in mind. > > So, what city-state is it, and what period are you talking about? And could you also name the research that is the foundation of your assertion? I’m not going to get embroiled in this right now. > [@asahi](#): > > You’re not even remotely making sense here. > > So a democracy - any and every which one - naturally pits people against each other, and \*\*cooperation is somehow not in the human spirit? Is that what you’re saying? There’s no way to control the worst of our impulses, so why bother? Why have laws and rules? \*\* > > That’s just a profoundly ignorant and insular worldview. Didn’t say anything like that I have bolded. Those are your own contributions that do not follow from what I said. > [@Slash1972](#): > > Because the threat of punishment stops them. If there was no threat of punishment, I suspect you would get robbed a lot more often. There is much to be said on this, but I have done so at length in other threads. I don’t have the energy right now to do it again. > [@rat\_avatar](#): > > It is mildly amusing how the people who tend to call people Marxists the most are begging the state to force private companies to provide them with free services. > > Are they admitting that they are fascists who want government-linked companies or are they also closet Marxists? > > either way the “it is my right to have free stuff” argument is ironic even if it is typical to the libertarian mindset. Yes “right to free stuff” like food, shelter, and healthcare is typically libertarian. You people have no self-awareness whatsoever. > [@E-DUB](#): > > No, libertarians are _right-wing_ anti-authoritarians. Anarchists are _left-wing_ anti-authoritarians. Bad enough people are trying to convice folks that the Nazis were Socialists. Yes and proper libertarianism is anarchism. > [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Oh, ok, **WF** , it’s good you’re only ‘policing’, then, and none of those damning, outright entreaties. How is my policing in conflict with my abstention from schoolmarmism? Answer: it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/218 "2018-08-09T13:33:50Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > How is my policing in conflict with my abstention from schoolmarmism? Answer: it’s not. “Abstension from schooolmarmism” is pretty poor sophistry, along with “sticking their necks out” in (gasp!) showing some moral conviction, but nice try though. Quite the nifty soft-shoeing with policing, instead of direct asking. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/219 "2018-08-09T13:39:35Z")
Policing? Where are your badges? ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/220 "2018-08-09T14:21:26Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Policing? Where are your badges? Badges? We don’t need no stinkin’ badges. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202.md?page=12)