# Alex Jones gets cyber-slapped

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 7, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202 "2018-08-07T00:42:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/61 "2018-08-07T16:05:56Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Do you support hate speech legislation? There are many who do. Not a good look for the long haul.

What does any of this have to do with hate speech legislation?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/62 "2018-08-07T16:12:10Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Do you support hate speech legislation? There are many who do. Not a good look for the long haul.

Do you support people being able to break the rules they agreed to just because you believe the same things they do? I forgot-you voted for Trump. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/63 "2018-08-07T16:18:20Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Do you support hate speech legislation? There are many who do. Not a good look for the long haul.

Canada has hate speech laws, and we’re further from being authoritarian than the USA right now.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/64 "2018-08-07T16:39:31Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Do you support people being able to break the rules they agreed to just because you believe the same things they do? I forgot-you voted for Trump. :rolleyes:

You’re not too bright are you?

> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> Canada has hate speech laws, and we’re further from being authoritarian than the USA right now.

Are hate speech laws authoritarian?

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**Author:** ![rock\_party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@rock\_party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rock_party)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/65 "2018-08-07T16:43:15Z")

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It’s more than just a lie. He vomited the Sandy Hook bs daily for months. He had every opportunity to “correct” his misinformation and refused and kept at it. He should be in jail.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/66 "2018-08-07T16:46:59Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Are hate speech laws authoritarian?

Once again, doofus-this isn’t about hate speech laws. This is about Alex Jones breaking the rules he agreed to follow, for the privilege of posting on You Tube, Facebook, Twitter and various other media.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/67 "2018-08-07T16:55:29Z")

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“Oh no! Alex Jones can no longer broadcast for free using someone else’s system or network! HOW UNFAIR!” they bellowed.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/68 "2018-08-07T17:41:44Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> You’re not too bright are you?
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> Are hate speech laws authoritarian?

Why do you keep referring to legislation when this is a case of some private companies enforcing their rules, and not continuing to provide a platform for someone that can’t follow their rules?

You realize Facebook, Apple, etc aren’t passing laws, right?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/69 "2018-08-07T17:55:12Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Why do you keep referring to legislation when this is a case of some private companies enforcing their rules, and not continuing to provide a platform for someone that can’t follow their rules?
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> You realize Facebook, Apple, etc aren’t passing laws, right?

Same reason sTrumpets scream about “no collusion”. They have nothing else.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/70 "2018-08-07T18:02:11Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Why do you keep referring to legislation when this is a case of some private companies enforcing their rules, and not continuing to provide a platform for someone that can’t follow their rules?
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> You realize Facebook, Apple, etc aren’t passing laws, right?

They used the term “hate speech”. This term is politically loaded because many authoritarian governments have passed laws against hate speech.

If a resataurant has pancakes on the menu, and I consider them waffles, I would want to get to the bottom of just what a pancake is in the view of the larger society.

I simply asked for an example of what these companies consider hate speech. I have not received that example.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/71 "2018-08-07T18:04:05Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> How do you say “You didn’t really have a 6 year old daughter that was killed, you are just part a vast conspiracy to take our guns away” without being a dick. Yes, to a certain extent, it is about content.

The closest formulation I can come up with and still be a somewhat-decent human being is “While I sympathize with your loss, there is a larger issue at stake.”

Of course, that’s not going to get me 2.1 million followers.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/72 "2018-08-07T18:07:03Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> “Oh no! Alex Jones can no longer broadcast for free using someone else’s system or network! HOW UNFAIR!” they bellowed.

Yeah it’s like these entitled fucks who bitch when someone doesn’t bake them a cake, and run to tell daddy government.

Except nobody is running to daddy government for protection.

What self-respecting man runs to the government because someone doesn’t like them, lol. White fragility indeed.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/73 "2018-08-07T18:07:30Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> I simply asked for an example of what these companies consider hate speech. I have not received that example.

How about Alex Jones’ Infowars podcasts?

Also, Facebook’s definition of hate speech is [here](https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/objectionable_content). (“We define hate speech as a direct attack on people based on what we call protected characteristics — race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, caste, sex, gender, gender identity, and serious disease or disability. We also provide some protections for immigration status. We define attack as violent or dehumanizing speech, statements of inferiority, or calls for exclusion or segregation. We separate attacks into three tiers of severity, as described below.”)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/74 "2018-08-07T18:10:31Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Yeah it’s like these entitled fucks who bitch when someone doesn’t bake them a cake, and run to tell daddy government.

What _is_ Jones’ position on gay marriage, now that you mention it?

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/75 "2018-08-07T18:11:07Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> How about Alex Jones’ Infowars podcasts?
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> Also, Facebook’s definition of hate speech is [here](https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/objectionable_content). (“We define hate speech as a direct attack on people based on what we call protected characteristics — race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, caste, sex, gender, gender identity, and serious disease or disability. We also provide some protections for immigration status. We define attack as violent or dehumanizing speech, statements of inferiority, or calls for exclusion or segregation. We separate attacks into three tiers of severity, as described below.”)

Ok so I’m just supposed to assume he was a hate monger? I know him from A Scanner Darkly and the Piers Morgan interview.

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**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/76 "2018-08-07T18:12:03Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> What _is_ Jones’ position on gay marriage, now that you mention it?

He is a Libertarian, thus doesn’t care (as long as he doesn’t have to see the icky love stuff)

Edit to add, he does think that the Left promotes homosexuality to encourage the breakdown of the family…so…ya

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/77 "2018-08-07T18:12:18Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> What _is_ Jones’ position on gay marriage, now that you mention it?

No clue and don’t care. As far as I can tell he would join his AR15 in holy matrimony.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/78 "2018-08-07T18:14:58Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Ok so I’m just supposed to assume he was a hate monger? I know him from A Scanner Darkly and the Piers Morgan interview.

You’ve been given a fuckload of links, so the only thing we can assume about your ignorance is that it is deliberate.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/79 "2018-08-07T18:15:36Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You’ve been given a fuckload of links, so the only thing we can assume about your ignorance is that it is deliberate.

What links?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-gets-cyber-slapped/819202/80 "2018-08-07T18:20:04Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> What links?

Are you actually Cohen?  
All those words in blue and underlined, dumbfuck.

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