# Alex Jones loses custody battle due to being fucking crazy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 29, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485 "2017-04-29T11:34:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/1 "2017-04-29T11:34:03Z")
> **[Alex Jones loses custody battle to system rigged against hate-filled lunatics](https://www.avclub.com/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-to-system-rigged-agains-1798261224?utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing)** > > The custody battle of InfoWars’ Alex Jones has been an embarrassment of embarrassments, what with its endless procession of revelations about Jones’ incredible preteen sexual prowess, his dank meme skills, and his insistence that he’s just a... > [@](#): > > A Travis County jury ruled 10-2 on Thursday night to give Jones’ ex-wife Kelly joint custody, along with the power to dictate where their three kids (aged 9, 12, and 14) will live. Jones will have limited, supervised visitation rights—that decision likely stemming from closing arguments made by Kelly Jones’ attorneys, who accused Alex Jones of being a “master manipulator” and “like a cult leader” who was not only turning their children into “Infowarriors” and “foot soldiers,” but turning them against their mother through parental alienation syndrome. It was a damning accusation of Jones’ alleged use of hateful scorn, paranoia, and outright lies to influence the malleable, backed up solely by Alex Jones’ entire career. > > Meanwhile, Jones’ attorneys staked their entire defense on painting Kelly as living with an “inverted logic and an inverted sense of reality,” a self-absorbed and emotionally unstable person who is dangerously convinced of a cabal of government forces (chiefly court-appointed counselors) conspiring against her. Somehow, this strategy proved less than convincing. Every time I see a story like this, I smile. Crazy people with fucking batshit crazy beliefs _should_ face consequences for spreading or acting on those batshit crazy beliefs. Jones has been an absolute toxin on American discourse pretty much since he started doing his schtick. This man has spread the myth that the Sandy Hook shooting was a false flag, leading to harassment and death threats towards the parents whose children were murdered. His fraudulent health advice on his bullshit show has probably killed at least one or two people by now. His site is like Breitbart but more toxic and insane - and that’s _really_ saying something. It’s like a bizarre, twisted cross between Rense and FreeRepublic. A person willing to run a show like that, and hone a public persona like that has _no fucking business raising children_, any more than someone running the PR arm of a suicide cult has business raising children. Good riddance. I hope this teaches him a lesson in not being a fucking horrible person, but somehow I doubt it. At least his kids are less likely to grow up indoctrinated into his fucking insanity. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/2 "2017-04-29T12:43:57Z")
Did I read that one of the arguments Jones made was that his whole thing was just an act? ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/3 "2017-04-29T12:55:42Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Did I read that one of the arguments Jones made was that his whole thing was just an act? It’s \*performance art. \* ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/4 "2017-04-29T13:00:37Z")
Maybe Jones thinks that if the judge believes the public “persona” is an act, then the judge might also believe Jones is human. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/5 "2017-04-29T13:08:57Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Maybe Jones thinks that if the judge believes the public “persona” is an act, then the judge might also believe Jones is human. Are you saying that this isn’t enough to convince him? [Alex Jones is a human](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4GYyJwYjQ) ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/6 "2017-04-29T13:18:00Z")
I loved the part where he said that he ‘tests’ marijuana once a year to see how strong it is. :dubious: Sure Alex. It got even better when he blamed George Soros for making pot too strong. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/7 "2017-04-29T14:35:19Z")
Did anyone think that this sudden pouring on of the crazy was his way of getting rid of the kids without looking like he didn’t want them any more? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/8 "2017-04-29T14:36:33Z")
> [@thirdname](#): > > Are you saying that this isn’t enough to convince him? [Alex Jones is a human](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4GYyJwYjQ) He’s an escaped mental patient. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/9 "2017-04-29T15:06:25Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Did I read that one of the arguments Jones made was that his whole thing was just an act? One of his lawyers suggested this, yes. Jones himself made a couple of statements calling this into question. He could have made those to assuage his audience if it is just an act, or he could be really crazy. I subscribe to the “Mother Night” theory on him, which says if he has been pretending to be so nuts for so long it doesn’t matter what he “really” believes. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/10 "2017-04-29T15:12:45Z")
I don’t have anything to say about the merits of this particular case, but: So the PC police can now decide that you’re an unfit parent because of your political beliefs? That’s a dangerous precedent, comparable to putting the children of political prisoners in orphanages. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/11 "2017-04-29T15:22:59Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I don’t have anything to say about the merits of this particular case, but: > > So the PC police can now decide that you’re an unfit parent because of your political beliefs? That’s a dangerous precedent, comparable to putting the children of political prisoners in orphanages. It wasn’t the PC police, it was a judge. That’s his job. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/12 "2017-04-29T15:24:53Z")
This is good news. It’s nice to get good news from time to time. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Did anyone think that this sudden pouring on of the crazy was his way of getting rid of the kids without looking like he didn’t want them any more? I wondered the opposite: if maybe his ratchetting up the loony was to convince the judge that it must be all an act, because no one could possibly fit that much bat shit in their head. > [@Lumpy](#): > > I don’t have anything to say about the merits of this particular case, but: > > So the PC police can now decide that you’re an unfit parent because of your political beliefs? That’s a dangerous precedent, comparable to putting the children of political prisoners in orphanages. “PC police”? Police constable. . . police? I think that a judge can decide against someone in a custody battle based on their aggressive demeanor, outlandish public behavior and apparently unstable mental condition. Is that a dangerous precedent? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/13 "2017-04-29T15:26:27Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > So the PC police can now decide that you’re an unfit parent because of your political beliefs? One, there’s no such thing as the PC Police. There’s nobody who’s enforcing political correctness. Two, the court system said Jones is an unfit parent. At a hearing where he had full due process. Three, the court did not make their decision based on Jones’ beliefs. They made their decisions based on his behavior. Four, this is not a new procedure. So the PC police can now decide that you’re an unfit parent because of your political beliefs? No. The court system still has the ability to conduct hearings to determine if you’re an unfit parent because of your mentally unstable behavior? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/14 "2017-04-29T15:30:26Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I don’t have anything to say about the merits of this particular case, but: > > So the PC police can now decide that you’re an unfit parent because of your political beliefs? That’s a dangerous precedent, comparable to putting the children of political prisoners in orphanages. Let’s say your political/scientific beliefs include: - The president of the united states is illegitimate - The US government is literally murdering its own citizens to drum up support for its policies - Cancer is generally caused by fungal infections and cured by baking soda - any “real medicine” is poison designed to make you an addict I think it’s _entirely reasonable_ to say, “If you’re that fucking crazy, you can’t keep custody of your kids”. We’re not talking about “I think taxes should be lower” or even “I don’t think we should have a government”. We’re talking, “I’m going to go up on live TV and scream for hours on end about how the government is out to get you, and Clinton is raping children _right now_, and the Sandy Hook shooting was executed by paid false flag actors.” It’s not about political beliefs. It’s about being fucking crazy. You might as well argue that someone who supports ISIS having their children taken away is having their children taken away for “political beliefs” - specifically, the belief that this is the new Caliphate and all must bow before it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/15 "2017-04-29T15:33:37Z")
Sadly, the court system can not yet help if someone is unfit to be president. > **[Trump Is Still Getting Advice From the Guy Who Said Sandy Hook Was a Hoax](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/02/trump-and-alex-jones-in-contact-white-house-seems-to-acknowledge.html)** > > Alex Jones is the proprietor of InfoWars, a conspiracy website that has asserted that the Sandy Hook massacre never happened and that 9/11 was planned... > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > ``` > > [Jones] is apparently taking on a new role as occasional information source and validator for the president of the United States, with whom, Mr. Jones says, he sometimes speaks on the phone. > > > > ``` > > We already knew that Trump praised Jones during an appearance on his radio show and that they reportedly spoke in November after the election. Now the White House appears to have confirmed, to the Times, Jones’ contention that he and Trump are phone buddies: > > > [@](#): > > > > ``` > > Mr. Jones told me that he had spoken with Mr. Trump since that call [in November], though an aide to the president, communicating on the condition of anonymity, played down the frequency of their contact. > > > > ``` > > Playing down the frequency of their contact isn’t exactly denying that they’re in contact, is it? > > [Expletive]. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/16 "2017-04-29T15:40:07Z")
In Jones’ alternate reality, [his ex-wife actually lost the case](https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-alex-jones-custody-press-conference-live/). Up next: Jones and fellow loons and their supporters will use this decision to wail about Big Government taking kids away from great parents for political reasons. It could be a great marketing tool. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Sanchez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rick\_Sanchez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/17 "2017-04-29T15:52:30Z")
Alex Jones is mad as a shit house rat and shouldn’t be around children. ---
**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/18 "2017-04-29T16:09:09Z")
Apparently Alex cares more about his show than he does his own children, because here he is arguing against his own legal team. [https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones/videos/10155274993123459/](https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones/videos/10155274993123459/) [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAl8QJSmkPE) ---
**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/19 "2017-04-29T16:11:50Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I don’t have anything to say about the merits of this particular case, but: > > So the PC police can now decide that you’re an unfit parent because of your political beliefs? That’s a dangerous precedent, comparable to putting the children of political prisoners in orphanages. What, no personal responsibility? ---
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485/20 "2017-04-29T16:21:11Z")
This reminds me of the time Bill Maher on real time did a new rules segment on that guy who dressed up in a nazi uniform for his child custody hearing Bill Mahers response? Just admit you don't want the kid. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alex-jones-loses-custody-battle-due-to-being-fucking-crazy/785485.md?page=2)