# Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (her brilliant retort to Yoho)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 24, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220 "2020-07-24T14:56:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/61 "2020-07-24T22:35:27Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> So, it does not seem Yoho was being circumspect and quietly in a private conversation that someone eavesdropped on and than ran to the press. It sounds like the press heard him. AOC certainly heard him. Of course they were going to report it

I haven’t been very clear on this from the beginning and realize now I took a stance on this based on the reporting itself. So far I’ve seen about 90% of this story concentrating on the words “fucking bitch”. So I’m going to pull back on anything directly speaking about AOC’s statements or actions and just stick to my disregard for this kind of reporting and making political hay out of a sudden attack of prudism. There really is nothing here to see folks, it’s another day on capitol hill.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/62 "2020-07-24T22:39:56Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> it’s another day on capitol hill

And that is the problem.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/63 "2020-07-24T22:40:20Z")

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I just wanted to pipe in and acknowledge your efforts at making this thread about you. Well done!

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/64 "2020-07-24T22:42:56Z")

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It’s a great speech. Every so often you really need someone to rip into bad societal expectations and take them to shreds piece by piece, and that’s exactly what she did. Never underestimate the power of a great orator laying out what “we’ve all been saying for years” in excruciatingly simple easy to understand language. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was still being quoted and referred to years later in the same way that [Julia Gillard’s misogyny speech](https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/transcript-of-julia-gillards-speech-20121010-27c36.html) is in Australia - yes, it’s not “new”, but it’s crystalising. And she didn’t make it about her, she made it about everyone - that’s powerful.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/65 "2020-07-24T22:50:45Z")

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People have been asking about me, so I have responded. But thank you for respecting my voice, shows exactly how much you get it.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/66 "2020-07-24T22:51:24Z")

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Exactly.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/67 "2020-07-24T23:07:55Z")

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> [@pool](#):
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> AOC is just a social media attention whore who wants national spotlight attention while doing little to no actual representation for the district that elected her.

I actually am from her district. She’s recently had 79% approval there, and won her primary race against a well funded opponent and several others with 72% of the vote. So her constituents don’t have a problem with what she’s doing.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/68 "2020-07-24T23:24:34Z")

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> [@pool](#):
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> AOC is just a social media attention whore who wants national spotlight attention while doing little to no actual representation for the district that elected her.

Kind of a good illustration of her point right here. She’s just being an attention whore? She shouldn’t be taken seriously?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/69 "2020-07-24T23:39:23Z")

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Hmm. Which public figure best fits this description?

> [@pool](#):
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> …is just a social media attention whore who wants national spotlight attention while doing little…

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/70 "2020-07-24T23:51:42Z")

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Yoho is a massive tool, and I’m glad she called out his weak non-apology and in particular the canard these types always pull out: “I have a wife and/or other female relatives, so I can’t possibly treat women poorly”.

But I cringed right out of my shoes when AOC said she was glad her dad died young, and strongly implied that she kind of wished her mom were already dead as well. 😬 Awkward!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/71 "2020-07-24T23:54:35Z")

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> [@pool](#):
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> AOC is just a social media attention whore who wants national spotlight attention while doing little to no actual representation for the district that elected her.

Holy crap, you really said that out loud? Did you not, at the very least, watch the video of the speech that is the basis of this thread?  
That was a rhetorical question, BTW. Of course you didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/72 "2020-07-24T23:59:27Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> …I’m glad she called out his weak non-apology and in particular the canard these types always pull out: “I have a wife and/or other female relatives, so I can’t possibly treat women poorly”.

It reminds me of when Roy Moore (the alleged pedo who ran for senate in Alabama) was trying to shed allegations that he did not like Jewish people. His wife noted that, “one of our attorneys is a Jew.” It turned out later that [their attorney is not Jewish.](https://time.com/5089113/roy-moore-jewish-attorney-practicing-christian-martin-wishnatsky/) Apparently they just assumed he was.

You just can’t make this shit up.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/73 "2020-07-25T00:03:42Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> It turned out later that [their attorney is not Jewish.](https://time.com/5089113/roy-moore-jewish-attorney-practicing-christian-martin-wishnatsky/) Apparently they just assumed he was.

Ooooof. 🥴

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/74 "2020-07-25T00:05:30Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> It turned out later that [their attorney is not Jewish.](https://time.com/5089113/roy-moore-jewish-attorney-practicing-christian-martin-wishnatsky/) Apparently they just assumed he was.

Attorney, accountant, doctor… who can tell the difference.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/75 "2020-07-25T00:12:35Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> But I cringed right out of my shoes when AOC said she was glad her dad died young, and strongly implied that she kind of wished her mom were already dead as well. 😬 Awkward!

Not exactly:  
AOC:

> I am someone’s daughter too. My father, thankfully, is not alive to see how Mr. Yoho treated his daughter. My mother got to see Mr. Yoho’s disrespect on the floor of this House towards me on television and I am here because I have to show my parents that I am their daughter and that they did not raise me to accept abuse from men.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/76 "2020-07-25T00:46:05Z")

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Reasonable people can differ on whether she was implying that about her mom. But it’s right there in black and white about her dad: “My father, thankfully, is not alive”. Yikes!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/77 "2020-07-25T00:50:51Z")

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Yeah, sure, that’s what it says… if you cut the sentemce off before it ends. Yikes!

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/78 "2020-07-25T00:51:40Z")

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You know, if you read the whole quote that you so carefully chopped at just the right point, it would be obvious what she really said and meant.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/79 "2020-07-25T00:55:32Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Yeah, sure, that’s what it says… if you cut the sentemce off before it ends.

“My father, thankfully, is not alive to see how Mr. Yoho treated his daughter.”

Still not any better IMO. My dad also died young, and thereby missed out on seeing some bad things happen to me. I don’t think that’s a worthwhile tradeoff! I’d rather he still be around. Just me, I guess?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/80 "2020-07-25T00:58:14Z")

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Yes, “just you”. That expression doesn’t mean what you are assuming it means.

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