# Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (her brilliant retort to Yoho) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 24, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220 "2020-07-24T14:56:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/121 "2020-07-25T11:35:55Z")
At least two, depending upon how many people heard it happen. I for one have heard from both Representatives who have a side, and am satisfied that AOC responded to the phony apology, which was accepted by Stenny Hoyer. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/122 "2020-07-25T12:06:42Z")
Now we believe All Women! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/123 "2020-07-25T12:15:27Z")
Single sentences for justice! ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/124 "2020-07-25T12:57:22Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Just me, I guess? Yes. It is definitely just you. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/125 "2020-07-25T13:14:34Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > There are two sides to this story. Well, sure. But nobody seems to be arguing about the facts of the story. Not even Representative Yoho, who has not denied any of it. Not even calling her a “fucking bitch.” In his “apology,” he said “The offensive name calling, words attributed to me by the press were never spoken to my colleagues and if they were construed that way, I apologize for their misunderstanding.” In other words, he called her a fucking bitch, but not to her face. And he had his opportunity to respond, on the floor of the House, and he did, as did Representative Ocasio-Cortez. So what do you think the other side of the story is? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/126 "2020-07-25T13:47:04Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Just me, I guess? Yes. Find another trite hill to die on. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/127 "2020-07-25T13:56:21Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > There are two sides to this story. Enlighten us. Tell us about the side of the story in which AOC deserved to be called a disgusting, crazy, dangerous, fucking bitch. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/128 "2020-07-25T14:08:51Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Yes. > > Find another trite hill to die on. On the **SlackerInc** theory of idiomatic phrases, you should be warned for wishing death on another poster. 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/129 "2020-07-25T14:11:47Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > you should be warned for wishing death on another poster. Actually, I’m pretty sure the person behind the keyboard is a human being, not a large decorated sheet to be placed on a wall. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/130 "2020-07-25T14:55:44Z")
Well, he has denied it. Shrug ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/131 "2020-07-25T14:56:40Z")
What has he denied? ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/132 "2020-07-25T15:09:38Z")
That he called her a F… B…, he said they had a heated exchange but did not call her that. I’m just saying that give him the benefit of the doubt . That’s all. I have no reason to question either one of them. I wasn’t there. I’m out… ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/133 "2020-07-25T15:11:55Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > That he called her a F… B…, he said they had a heated exchange but did not call her that. I’m just saying that give him the benefit of the doubt . That’s all. I have no reason to question either one of them. I wasn’t there. I’m out… That was reported by a 3rd party who was there, not AOC. So, in fact, there were 3 accounts, and 2 of them reflect very poorly on Yoho. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/134 "2020-07-25T15:40:40Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > That he called her a F… B…, he said they had a heated exchange but did not call her that. I’m just saying that give him the benefit of the doubt . That’s all. I have no reason to question either one of them. I wasn’t there. I’m out… He didn’t say that; he said that he didn’t say it _to her_. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/135 "2020-07-25T15:43:45Z")
Benefit of the doubt: Maybe he was talking about one of his daughters. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/136 "2020-07-25T15:58:00Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > He didn’t say that; he said that he didn’t say it _to her_ . No, he claimed that he called her policies “bullshit.” [He totally denied the sexist epithet.](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/politics/aoc-ted-yoho-confrontation/index.html) > [@his spokesperson](#): > > [Yoho] made a brief comment to himself as he walked away summarizing what he believes her policies to be: bullshit. . . . He did not call Rep. Ocasio-Cortez what has been reported in the Hill or any name for that matter. It sounds better for the Hill newspaper and gets more media attention to say he called her a name - which he did not do. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/137 "2020-07-25T16:06:32Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > I wasn’t there. I’m out… Like a fart on a crowded elevator. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/138 "2020-07-25T16:07:49Z")
I’m actually way more offended by the stuff he said to her face than the thing he muttered as he walked away. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/139 "2020-07-25T16:12:41Z")
I agree with @Dangerosa. Not that it wasn’t a great speech and something that needed to be said–it was and it did. But it’s a fucking national shame that it still needs to be said, having been said over and over again, and treating the act of saying is as some sort of victory is naive at best. It’s a call to action, to be better, and so getting excited about the call–while still no action is taken–is frustrating. There’s nothing wrong about sharing this on Facebook or whatever, but it’s more important to share it at work. But most of us wouldn’t do that, because saying “wow, women often get treated terribly, and powerful, ambitious women are subjected to a particularly fierce misogyny” remains a political statement, the sort of thing it’s rude to bring up outside of close friends, because you wouldn’t want to offend anyone. People are talking about this like “Man, she sure burned him, and by proxy all those conservative dudes who are sexist pigs”. But those conservative sexist pigs don’t give a shit what she said, frankly, while the rest of the population seems to feel that because she said it, the job is done. That’s not explicit, of course, but that’s the tone when you treat the speech as the end of the story, not the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220/140 "2020-07-25T16:21:48Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > That’s not explicit, of course, but that’s the tone when you treat the speech as the end of the story, not the beginning. But who’s doing that? The fact that the speech resonated with so many people implies that progress is happening. It’s not going to continue to happen without reminders such as this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-brilliant-retort-to-yoho/916220.md?page=8)