# Alias 11/23/03 - SPOILERS

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 24, 2003, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028 "2003-11-24T16:26:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/1 "2003-11-24T16:26:24Z")

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Sydney gets busted out of federal custody and flies off for parts unknown with her rescuers.

Meh. Overall not a very exciting ep. Fairly single-plot focused, no real advancement of the underlying stuff. A “get Syd out of the soup” ep and not much more.

Bug pops her killing cherry. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. Did everyone figure out that Syd’s “fellow prisoner” was a plant? NSC scientist guy all but twirled his mustache while delivering his “he thought the First Amendment would protect him” line. All that was missing was the Snively Whiplash cloak and the “Muah-ha-ha-ha-ha!”

Creep factor moment of the ep: Sloane’s sitting in the front seat of the chopper, beaming back at Jack and Sydney. Ew.

Oh, and Marshall? Probably not a good ides to leave your attempt to crack the NSC computer up on your screen when you _leave the room with an NSC agent standing there_.

I liked Dixon’s moment of quiet dignity when he took the rap for the whole cover-up. Carl Lumbly should be a lot more famous than he is.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/2 "2003-11-24T20:30:56Z")

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> Fairly single-plot focused, no real advancement of the underlying stuff. A “get Syd out of the soup” ep and not much more.

Huh? Sloane, the world’s evilest (?) man plots together with 4 CIA agents to break Syd out of a black-money funded NSC prison. The episode ends with 4 of them on the lamb, most likely headed to one of Sloane’s underground lairs. Who can Syd possibly work for now? Can Jack and Vaughn go back to work without being arrested? Where the hell did Jack get all those guns/money?!? Is Sloane going black-op similar to a recovering addict hitting the smack again?

This was the most large scale plot-driven episode of the season!

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/3 "2003-11-24T22:13:36Z")

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And NO highlighted letters.  
(mostly cause they didn’t travel to other cities)

Brian  
keeping track of highlighted letters for some reason

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/4 "2003-11-24T22:32:43Z")

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I have to admit, I am wondering where they are all going to go now…every one of them has been “outed” as helping Syd escape. They can’t all just go back to the head office and make nice anymore.

Was this all Sloane’s secret plot to get them all on the run? Joining forces and becomine SD 7?

I miss Lena Olin…when is she coming back as Syd’s mom?

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/5 "2003-11-24T23:34:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DMark \*  
> I miss Lena Olin…when is she coming back as Syd’s mom?

[Olin hopes for _Alias_ return](http://www.dearsally.org/alias/articles/061003_lenaolin_scifiwire.html)

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/6 "2003-11-25T00:00:23Z")

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> Was this all Sloane’s secret plot to get them all on the run? Joining forces and becomine SD 7?

[nitpick]  
There was already an SD 7. The Alliance was organized into a series of units SD 1-12. Did we ever find out what “SD” stood for if anything?  
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**Author:** ![Wordy\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@Wordy\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wordy_One)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/7 "2003-11-25T00:38:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Otto \*  
> \*\*[nitpick]  
> Did we ever find out what “SD” stood for if anything?  
> [/nitpick] \*\*

It’s French–stands for Section Disparue.

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**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/8 "2003-11-25T00:49:41Z")

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Oh, so NOW Lena wants to come back.

A few things **LaurAnge** and I discussed:

1. If Jack has that much cash, why bother working?

2. The fat guy was gonna die as soon as we saw him. We didn’t peg him as NSC, though.

3. Bug’s report may or may not have been the whitewash Lindsay wanted.

4. Marshall is cracking NSC security with an XBOX?!

Next week’s celebrity guest star: David Cronenberg. That’s gonna be fun.

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**Author:** ![Rythefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@Rythefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rythefly)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/9 "2003-11-25T05:20:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by brianjedi \*  
> \*\*Oh, so NOW Lena wants to come back.  
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Actually that link was from June…right after the season finale. There have been alot of developments in the Lena Olin/Alias saga. The latest news is that she is not coming back despite having all of her demands met. We do not know why she has decided to come back, but J.J. is still holding out hope for next season.

I’m of the opinion that if they are unable to secure her for occasional guest appearances they should recast her part. The overrall arc cannot be completed without Irina Derevko. And I don’t want some slapped together episode that wraps EVERYTHING concerning her character up neatly. I want her to wander in and out of Sydney’s life for the remainder of the show…something I’m not sure is possible with Lena Olin seeing that she may be difficult to secure reliably.

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**Author:** ![Nangleator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e19adc/32.png) [@Nangleator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nangleator)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/10 "2003-11-25T13:10:35Z")

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Based on how quickly Jack got out of prison for dealing with his ex, I’d wager that all the criminal events of this episode are dealt with in the first five minutes of the next ep, and everything will be back to normal.

Yes, including the murder of an NSC operative performing his duty.

I saw the whole prison switcheroo within seconds. Him giving her the blanked confirmed it. How come Syd didn’t see the possibility? At least she lied about the coords.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/11 "2003-11-26T20:00:18Z")

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By the by, I will mention that my “Sloane constantly drinking water is a world conspiracy” conspiracy was shot to hell in this episode - I didn’t see him drink so much as a drop.

Of course, the one episode he’s not seen drinking water he gets SHOT IN THE CHEST!!!

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**Author:** ![vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@vandal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vandal)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/12 "2003-11-26T22:07:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by brianjedi \*  
> **1. If Jack has that much cash, why bother working?**

I’d venture to say that the work he does is really that satisfying and rewarding. I mean, it must feel pretty exhilerating knowing that you were responsible for stopping a terrorist plot to kill hundreds of people.

As for everyone going back to work without a hitch, I’m sure that Vaughn’s wife will have some kind of blackmail thing going on with the NSC head guy (forget his name) citing that Sydney was unjustly incarcerated.

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2003, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/13 "2003-11-29T14:59:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vandal \*  
> **I’d venture to say that the work he does is really that satisfying and rewarding. I mean, it must feel pretty exhilerating knowing that you were responsible for stopping a terrorist plot to kill hundreds of people.**

Jack seems to do less of that lately, and more of the illicit killing.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-11-23-03-spoilers/215028/14 "2003-12-01T17:43:43Z")

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Well, that’s the thing – ever since Sydney became involved in the spy game, Jack feels he needs to keep his hand in to protect her. And SYdney is enough of an idealist that she’s not going to give up the life to let her daddy support her with his illegally-garnered wealth.

–Cliffy
