# Alias 4/25 - SPOILERS **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 26, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045 "2004-04-26T05:56:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/1 "2004-04-26T05:56:11Z")
OK, did the writers think that no one who watched this show might have seen _Marathon Man_? As soon as Bug started in on freeing Vaughn I was all “Marathon Man!” and the people I was watching with were all “what does that mean?” So I guess the writers maybe did think that no one who watched the show might have seen _Marathon Man_. But hey, extended scenes of shirtless chained up Vaughn, so no complaints from me on that score. So much for Sloane’s big reformation. I wonder who the safe house speech was for, the daughter, the Bristows or himself? I find myself thinking I’ve missed something. Sydney has been designated as The Chosen One, who will battle The Passenger to their mutual annihilation. But I thought the whole Chosen One thing came from the S1 Rimbaldi prophecy, and I thought that Sydney took herself out of the running for being the subject of that prophecy by climbing that mountain in Italy and looking upon the valley of his birth. Was there some other indicator that she is the Chosen One or have the writers just gone on a season-long screw up? What message do we suppose Sloane’s daughter (what was her actual name again?) will channel now that she’s been shot up with the joy juice? Next week the return of Isabella Rosellini! Yay! ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/2 "2004-04-26T06:48:01Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > “As soon as Bug started in on freeing Vaughn…” Who is Bug? > [@](#): > > “So I guess the writers maybe did think that no one who watched the show might have seen Marathon Man.” I doubt the writers have seen Marathon Man. What’s this for and/or where’s the story going? The writers don’t know how to wrap this Rambaldi bullshit up. So it goes on and on. A damned never-ending story. Her name was Nadia. Nadia’s message…how about…that Sloane is actually a clone created from Rambaldi’s DNA. Sloane is merely Rambaldi’s physical twin but his genius and obsession with Rambaldi is due to this. That in order for his resurrection be complete, Sloane must transplant the brains of Nadia and Sydney into the latest “Rambaldi device”. The two girls secretly possess the memories and other mental aspects which was Rambaldi. That was the “real” message from last season. The device would implant these memories into Sloane and thus Rambaldi’s immortality could thus be achieved. Will Sloane survive is the question? Sydney (the good) Rambaldi = Savior Nadia (the bad) Rambaldi = Passenger If the two/three if ya count Sloan (the ugly) waa-wa-waa are joined, they become Rambaldi and therefore neither of them will survive. Prophesy complete. Sort of like a multiple personality spy guy/girl/uh…whatever. 😉 So, how’s that for ya? I’ve practically given up on television but I do watch _Alias_ when I get the chance. BTW I was kinda disappointed the writers didn’t have the guts to make her sister a twin and then have Jennifer play two roles. I guess they were afraid they couldn’t explain the identical twins with different fathers along with the DNA thing in the story. The DNA satellite? hmm…they’d have done better getting rid of that crap and going with my idea instead. ---
**Author:** ![Ripley2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba9def/32.png) [@Ripley2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ripley2004)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/3 "2004-04-26T07:47:45Z")
> [@t-keela](#): > > Who is Bug? Bug = the bulgy-eyed, perpetually puffy-lipped, Melissa George-- Vaughn’s wife. ---
**Author:** ![Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glory)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/4 "2004-04-26T07:51:49Z")
> [@Ripley2004](#): > > Bug = the bulgy-eyed, perpetually puffy-lipped, Melissa George-- Vaughn’s wife. I thought it came from VW Bug… VW = Vaugn’s Wife? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/5 "2004-04-26T14:28:37Z")
**Glory** is correct. Vaughn’s Wife=VW=Bug. Coined before I could remember the character’s name. > [@t-keela](#): > > I doubt the writers have seen Marathon Man. What’s this for and/or where’s the story going? Oh I bet every writer on staff has seen _Marathon Man_. ---
**Author:** ![Ripley2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba9def/32.png) [@Ripley2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ripley2004)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/6 "2004-04-26T18:49:04Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > **Glory** is correct. Vaughn’s Wife=VW=Bug. Coined before I could remember the character’s name. > Oh I bet every writer on staff has seen _Marathon Man_. Thanks Otto, for reminding me how you got the “Bug” moniker started. Isn’t it neat though that she physically fits the name, too? (And I should get half credit–I “did” know _who_ Bug is, just not the etymology of the name.) I agree that the writers most probably _are_ familiar with _Marathon Man_. MM’s dental torture scene with Sir Lawrence Olivier and Dustin Hoffman is forever branded in my mind. I can take gory torture, but ugh! the dental drill is the worst. ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/7 "2004-04-26T19:04:39Z")
And what was with that “oh, we’re breaking out of prison and have guards on our tail, but let’s sit down and get to know each other” bit? And the brain-wave satellite? Yep, a half-naked Vaughn was the only way to redeem this episode! And I didn’t see Marathon Man, but I saw through Bug’s deception anyhow and was glad Vaughn was able to, too…now will his father be coming back to life in an episode real soon? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/8 "2004-04-26T20:57:40Z")
I made a conscious choice to disregard the brainwave satelite. There is no brainwave satelite. They just _said_ “brainwave satelite” but they really meant something completely different. Odd how completely unbelievable tech is acceptable if it comes from Rimbaldi 500 years ago but not if it’s modern-day… ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/9 "2004-04-26T21:20:55Z")
This just reveals my dinosaur-geek status, but when Sydney was spouting off dinosaur facts early in the episode, it kinda turned me on… ---
**Author:** ![jeevmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jeevmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeevmon)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/10 "2004-04-26T21:47:16Z")
> [@t-keela](#): > > The writers don’t know how to wrap this Rambaldi bullshit up. So it goes on and on. A damned never-ending story. In other words, “The X-Files” circa start of the fifth season. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alias-4-25-spoilers/242045/11 "2004-04-27T15:17:08Z")
(t-keela muttering to self) brainwave satellite genius not DNA satellite but eitherway :rolleyes: Bug= **V** aughn’s **W** ife (makes sense) > [@jeevmon](#): > > In other words, “The X-Files” circa start of the fifth season. I only saw a few episodes but I’ll take your word for it. > [@Otto](#): > > Oh I bet every writer on staff has seen Marathon Man. Maybe one of the writers saw _MM_ and tried to slip it by the others. Actually my reponse here and before is a weak attempt at sarcasm. Reflective of my disappointment in the writers for _Alias_ lately. They make you wait for **“an all new Alias”** only to realize you’re watching a remake of an old movie. Not good ☹