# Alice Paul was not married to President Arthur **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2013, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092 "2013-08-13T00:50:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092/21 "2013-08-13T19:42:41Z")
Tyler was also widowed and remarried while president, but I notice that the two Mrs. Tylers are both listed as Coin 10. I wonder if they’re both going to be on the same coin. Franklin Pierce’s wife Jane was alive during his presidency but very rarely served at state functions because she was in mourning for their sons (the last surviving of whom was killed in a train accident she witnessed between her husband’s election and inauguration, so she was devastated). Several other women served in the First Lady role at official functions, most frequently Jefferson Davis’s wife, Varina. Pierce had no VP in D.C. during his term; he was elected with William Rufus D. King as VP, but King died in the early days of the administration before ever reaching D.C. and he was never replaced. Ironically, King was known in his lifetime as “Mrs. Buchanan” (among other nicknames, including “Aunt Nancy”), while James Bucahanan was sometimes referred to as “Mrs. King” (among other nicknames). Gays would probably take more interest if Buchanan weren’t considered a bad and largely forgotten (and unattractive) president. ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092/22 "2013-08-13T19:58:49Z")
I’m tempted to say that I’ll never get used to not having a coin for Alice, but I doubt that anybody would remember that song. But seriously . . . > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But apparently back when the Presidential One Dollar Coin Act of 2005 was enacted, somebody decided to pork barrel Paul in. Who? Who was this “somebody”? Who had nothing better to do with their life than to insert a non-First Lady into a First Lady coin series? Is this person proud of him/herself? “Whoa, I really kicked some ass there, threw my weight around and got Alice Paul right up there with all the biggies like Ida McKinley. Boo-yah!” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092/23 "2013-08-13T20:09:16Z")
Alice? She went down to Buckingham Palace with Christopher Robin. She’s going to marry a guard, I hear. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092/24 "2013-08-13T20:13:34Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > I’m tempted to say that I’ll never get used to not having a coin for Alice, but I doubt that anybody would remember that song. > " Did Sally call when she got the word? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092/25 "2013-08-13T20:38:39Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > She got herself put in the same cell, and then heaved a volume of poetry by Elizabeth Barrett Browning through a small window, increasing the airflow. Yeah, tha EBB was a real blowhard. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092/26 "2013-08-13T21:54:12Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > Who? Who was this “somebody”? Who had nothing better to do with their life than to insert a non-First Lady into a First Lady coin series? Is this person proud of him/herself? “Whoa, I really kicked some ass there, threw my weight around and got Alice Paul right up there with all the biggies like Ida McKinley. Boo-yah!” I have a theory. I think there’s this group of five hundred and thirty five people who hold meetings and run the country. It sounds crazy, I know, but I have evidence. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092/27 "2013-08-14T12:39:42Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > I’m tempted to say that I’ll never get used to not having a coin for Alice, but I doubt that anybody would remember that song. > > But seriously . . . > > Who? Who was this “somebody”? Who had nothing better to do with their life than to insert a non-First Lady into a First Lady coin series? Is this person proud of him/herself? “Whoa, I really kicked some ass there, threw my weight around and got Alice Paul right up there with all the biggies like Ida McKinley. Boo-yah!” I’ll bet it was Ron Paul! ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092/28 "2013-08-14T17:37:50Z")
Even coin collectors are puzzled. “Who is Alice Paul and why is she on the presidential wives coin set?” > **[Who Is Alice Paul & Why Will She Be Honored On A Coin? - Coin Community...](https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=101226&SearchTerms=Alice%2BPaul)** > > Who Is Alice Paul & Why Will She Be Honored On A Coin? - Coin Community Forum Mintages: > **[2012 First Spouse Mintages - Coin Community Forum](https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=141606&SearchTerms=Alice%2BPaul)** > > 2012 First Spouse Mintages - Coin Community Forum FIRST SPOUSE GOLD COINS Alice Paul Proof (2012) 2,926 Alice Paul Uncirculated (2012) 2,190 ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092/29 "2013-08-14T18:23:17Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I have a theory. I think there’s this group of five hundred and thirty five people who hold meetings and run the country. It sounds crazy, I know, but I have evidence. Well, I suspect 534 of them didn’t really care whether or not Paul got a coin. Presumably someone took some extra effort to have the requirement to include her put on the bill. Given how these things usually work, I’d suspect a Senator or Rep. from New Jersey is the culprate, since that was Paul’s home state. But I don’t share the OP’s rage. Having Paul on the coin doesn’t seem any more random then female “representations of liberty”. Plus I’d never heard of Paul before this, and now I have, so to the extent that the purpose was to publicize her life, it worked. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092/30 "2013-08-14T20:38:22Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > But I don’t share the OP’s rage. Having Paul on the coin doesn’t seem any more random then female “representations of liberty”. Plus I’d never heard of Paul before this, and now I have, so to the extent that the purpose was to publicize her life, it worked. Not really rage. More like a sense that this was wrong. Like I said, I admire Paul. But she wasn’t a First Spouse. I admire Benjamin Franklin too but I would have objected if somebody had decided to put him on one of the Presidential coins. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alice-paul-was-not-married-to-president-arthur/666092.md?page=1)