# Alien: Covenant opening next month

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 28, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464 "2017-04-28T23:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/1 "2017-04-28T23:35:41Z")

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Anyone going to see it?

I know that _Prometheus_ was not highly regarded here, but I liked it. It was eerie and scary and gorgeous to look at. So what if the crew were a collection of halfwits? Somebody has to die horribly in these films and it might as well be them. Also, it had Idris Elba.

I liked Michael Fassbender’s David a lot and so I want to see this new film to see his latest android character. But won’t David be in this one as well? I’m so confused.

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/2 "2017-04-29T00:00:27Z")

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Got my tickets already. Now I just need to catch up with Prometheus first and I’m ready.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/3 "2017-05-01T13:48:03Z")

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I’ve seen the promos, and I find the usage of a John Denver song curious. Nothing can make that fluffy crap creepy.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/4 "2017-05-01T23:37:39Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> I’ve seen the promos, and I find the usage of a John Denver song curious. Nothing can make that fluffy crap creepy.

Somehow they discover Denver’s voice is the one thing that kills xenomorphs in their tracks. See, it turns out Henry John Deutschendorf Jr. was a bio-weapon created by the Engineers and…😃

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/5 "2017-05-01T23:50:19Z")

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I’m excited to see it though I found it kind of odd that Danny McBride of Eastbound and Down fame is going to be in it. I love that guy I just wonder if he is there to provide comic relief or if he’ll mostly be playing it straight.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/6 "2017-05-08T16:47:04Z")

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Reviews are starting to come in. They’re mixed, but mostly positive. Fassbender in particular is being praised.

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**Author:** ![Mavic\_Chen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mavic\_Chen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mavic_Chen)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/7 "2017-05-12T22:04:22Z")

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Well I’ve just got back from the cinema, it left me all a bit disappointed. Very similar set up and tropes we’ve all seen before including the bait and switch from Alien 3 for flips sake. The pacing was all over the place and after three quarters I was seriously restless, bored even. First act setting up the landing on the planet, rather dull. Next bit on the planet quite good until the “stupid” actions from Prometheus crept in, particularly with that chick on the lander. Next act all dark and boring exposition. Last act, finally! Some action! But they telegraphed the ending from at least half way through the film. Really, all that money and this is as good as they could do? Please for the love of bog get a good script if any more are made.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/8 "2017-05-12T22:23:31Z")

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> [@teela\_brown](#):
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> I liked Michael Fassbender’s David a lot and so I want to see this new film to see his latest android character. But won’t David be in this one as well? I’m so confused.

A decent synopsis of the plot is up on the ths movie’s wikipedia page. It looks like the movie will skip over just about all of the unanswered questions and plot issues from Prometheus.

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**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/9 "2017-05-16T09:39:41Z")

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Probably a good thing, really.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/10 "2017-05-16T11:46:27Z")

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I honestly think I’m going to pass. I’ve gotten sucked in several times to films in the _Alien_ franchise, and the only one I really liked was **Aliens**.  
**Prometheus** , for all the praise given to it (including here) was a profound disappointment. It proved that, even with Scott back at the helm, I couldn’t count on these flicks.

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**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/11 "2017-05-17T16:56:10Z")

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Just saw this. Got the ticket mostly because the last one of my Christmas gift tickets was expiring. It wasn’t as bad as Prometheus but there wasn’t really anything new or original to it and as **Mavic Chen** wrote the ending was trivially easy to see coming. I did like some of the parts and wasn’t bored during the movie but in the end it’s a 3/5 stars movie.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/12 "2017-05-17T17:23:02Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I honestly think I’m going to pass. I’ve gotten sucked in several times to films in the _Alien_ franchise, and the only one I really liked was **Aliens**.  
> **Prometheus** , for all the praise given to it (including here) was a profound disappointment. It proved that, even with Scott back at the helm, I couldn’t count on these flicks.

I love \*\*Alien \*\*as a great horror movie and think \*\*Aliens \*\*is one of the most kick ass movies ever. But I will also be passing. The series should have ended with Aliens. **Prometheus** was boring and went nowhere new.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/13 "2017-05-17T21:10:41Z")

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Anyone see the [Rick and Morty ad](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnRHBLmCK0o) for Covenant? It’s pretty funny.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/14 "2017-05-18T21:37:56Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I love \*\*Alien \*\*as a great horror movie and think \*\*Aliens \*\*is one of the most kick ass movies ever. But I will also be passing. The series should have ended with Aliens.

It should be possible to make more good Aliens movies. Someday, hopefully, someone will make some.

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**Author:** ![Artfog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/artfog/32/1011_2.png) [@Artfog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Artfog)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/15 "2017-05-19T04:08:21Z")

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I thought it was pretty good. I find it interesting that a franchise that began as “Jaws in Space” has expanded to cover some fairly profound subjects.

Re the franchise, Aliens has always struck me as an entertaining but mindless action film; Alien 3 could have been great if Fincher was allowed to do his job; Alien:Resurrection was the nadir. In my opinion, Prometheus and Covenant are better than those three.

There were two scenes in Covenant that I’m guessing are firsts:

[spoiler] 1. The kiss,  
and  
2. The fight

between Walter and David with the same actor portraying both protagonists. [/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/16 "2017-05-20T01:02:58Z")

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More like the 1979 **“Alien”** then any of the other Alien films (thanks in part to including the Goldsmith music) and feels more like a reboot then anything else, and that’s not a bad thing. At least the characters aren’t **SO DUMB** as the “scientists” in _"Prometheus_ were.

If I had to rate them, I’d go  
Alien  
Covenant  
Aliens  
Alien 3  
Alien: Resurrection  
Prometheus

Aliens is good, but it’s TOO much of an “action” film for me and I consider the Alien franchise more Science fiction/suspense than Science fiction/action

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/17 "2017-05-21T03:14:55Z")

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_sigh_

When will I learn. There was no POINT to the damn movie. None.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/18 "2017-05-21T03:30:18Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> _sigh_
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> When will I learn. There was no POINT to the damn movie. None.

Unfortunately true. I actually liked Prometheus better than this one.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/19 "2017-05-21T08:25:33Z")

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> [@Artfog](#):
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> There were two scenes in Covenant that I’m guessing are firsts:
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> [spoiler] 1. The kiss,  
> and  
> 2. The fight
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> between Walter and David with the same actor portraying both protagonists. [/spoiler]

I take it you’ve never seen Orphan Black on TV?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-covenant-opening-next-month/785464/20 "2017-05-21T12:28:18Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I love \*\*Alien \*\*as a great horror movie and think \*\*Aliens \*\*is one of the most kick ass movies ever. But I will also be passing. The series should have ended with Aliens. **Prometheus** was boring and went nowhere new.

I could have written this. My Wife has the faith though and we may see a matinee.

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