# Alien vs Predator movie, anyone looking forward to it?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 28, 2003, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-vs-predator-movie-anyone-looking-forward-to-it/221397 "2003-12-28T08:43:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2004, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-vs-predator-movie-anyone-looking-forward-to-it/221397/81 "2004-01-03T07:18:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by John Mullets \*  
> \*\*I hear a ton of people saying “it’ll suck but I’ll see it.” Why? I don’t want to get into a big whiney arguement, but if you keep forking up cash for shitty Hollywood films, Hollywood will keep making shitty films. We all know Hollywood is just a money-grubbing industry, at least make sure they earn your money with a good film (if one will ever come out). \*\*

I’m a big fan of “voting with your wallet.” I started a thread a long time ago about how [bad movies](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=153733&highlight=movies+made) get made, and apparently not going to see them doesn’t necessarily stop them from getting made.

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**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2004, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-vs-predator-movie-anyone-looking-forward-to-it/221397/82 "2004-01-04T01:26:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Evil Death \*  
> \*\*That was Ripley being hysterical to some degree. Yes, if a xenomorph got loose on Earth it would be difficult if not impossible to clean them out permanently, but it’s by no means as apocalyptic as she makes it out to be.  
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It was also the plot to **Aliens: Earth War** , and the first arcade **AvP** game where a once a hive came about, it managed to sweep across a good portion of the country in a matter of weeks. I know we covered it earlier, but we’ve already discussed a bit how quickly the things managed to take over the colony on LV-426, and they only had a population of about 150. Imagine if a queen managed to get into the subway system somewhere with a population like Los Angeles? There’d be a lot more a lot faster, I tell you what.

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> \*Originally posted by Evil Death \ ***Your beef here seems to be that he’s _correcting_ a flaw in Predator.**

What flaw? That their wriste detonators don’t instantly atomize everything withing a twenty mile radius, including things below ground? That’s not a flaw, that’s basic common sense…they things _shouldn’t_ have something with that much destructive capability on thier person. If things get too out of hand, they could vaporize things from orbit, but the wrist detonator isn’t meant to be, or shouldn’t be, a cure all for everything. It’s mainly a way to leave no trace behind, and if you’re lucky, take your enemy out with you…not to sterilize an area and make it uninhabitable. There’s no flaw in the Predator’s design, just in Anderson’s logic.

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> _Originally posted by Evil Death \*\*\*  
> Unless, of course, the other two were covering him while he did it. How long did it take to input the code in the first movie - five seconds? Two humans could hold off a horde of xenomorphs for that long - bugger me with a Toblerone if two Predators couldn’t._\*

Watch the featurette and tell me how those two guys are providing any cover. They’re on top of a pyramid with xenomorph coming at them from all sides, and they’re using staves and hand weapons. Marine’s are able to provide cover because they’re using machine guns, and in most cases, the bugs are coming from one direction. There was no cover here, just a last stand (according to his drawings, anyway).

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> _Originally posted by Evil Death \*\*\*  
> Such informed commentary._\*

What, like your’s? At least I’m trying to explain why I feel his ideas are lame with some sort of thought process, not just screaming “You’re a poopy-head”

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> _Originally posted by Evil Death \*\*\*  
> The Predators have always carried and used knives. Perhaps you thought they were for paring their fingernails?_\*

No, I think it’s pretty blatant that predators use their knives to kill and gut things. What I was pointing out here is that we’ve already seen that the predators have a disc weapon capable of being thrown that can also be guided, cut threw hanging stocks of beef without slowing down and still cleave a human in half, and return, or be used as a hand-to-hand weapon. Why they would use _throwing stars_ instead is just stupid! That’d be like a Space Marine turning in his pulse riffle to use a friggin musket.

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> \*Originally posted by Evil Death \ ***“I’ve wanted to make an Alien movie since I was a boy” is a bit of a tell.**

So, I’ve always wanted to make a **Batman** movie ever since I was a kid and watched the old Adam West series…doesn’t mean I’m an “obsessed fan”. He seems like a guy who watched the movies, and that’s about it. That’s a fan, but far from an “obsessive” fan. Maybe apples and oranges to you, but when you’re toying with something that does have a huge following of obsessive fans, it can lead to some pretty stupid errors on your storytelling capabilities (like having the xenomorph be on Earth in the present day).

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> \*Originally posted by Evil Death \*\*\*You know what’s funny? Every film that Anderson’s written has generally been well received. It’s the ones he _didn’t_ write that people bitch about - Soldier, Event Horizon and to a lesser extent Mortal Kombat. \*\*

Who thought **Resident Evil** was a good movie? I don’t remember reading any good reviews on the film…most of the ones I read gave it around 2-2.5 stars. I enjoyed all the zombie stuff, but the computer bits and the licker were shit. I also like **Event Horizon** , but don’t recall him getting any good reviews with that. Maybe he’s got a larger list of films I need to read up on, but looking at his track record, I’m not impressed.

As for Peter Jackson, **Bad Taste** and **Meet the Feebles** were pretty odd films, but **Braindead** was very well received, and he got some good acclaim for **Secret Silver** before making **Heavenly Creatures**. Everyone’s first couple films tend to be a big pisser, especially when they’re independantly funded and made with a group of your friends. I mean, look at **Sam Raimi**. Just wanted to point out that it didn’t take him that long to get some credit going.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2004, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-vs-predator-movie-anyone-looking-forward-to-it/221397/83 "2004-01-04T01:58:41Z")

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_slight nitpick_  
**Forgotten Silver** , not Secret Silver.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-vs-predator-movie-anyone-looking-forward-to-it/221397/84 "2004-01-04T02:12:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The God of Muesli Bars \*  
> \*\*Its hard to imagine this will be anything other than a special effects fiasco of the same quality as Independence Day or Alien Resurrection. \*\*

You do realize what this means.

It means I will be able to overcome the technology and threat of BOTH the Alien and the Predator with my Macintosh Titanium Powerbook, using OS-X Jaguar !!!

YIPPPPEEEEEEEEEEE 😛

Cartooniverse

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-vs-predator-movie-anyone-looking-forward-to-it/221397/85 "2004-01-07T11:25:21Z")

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A thought suddenly struck me regarding the Predator throwing stars and why they don’t use the Super Duper Disc of Death. According to the featurette, fighting xenomorphs is a rite of passage into adulthood for Predators. So, what if they don’t earn the right to hunt with the disc weapon until they’ve passed this test?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-vs-predator-movie-anyone-looking-forward-to-it/221397/86 "2004-01-07T23:17:34Z")

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That’s probably it.

I’m curious how Predators amuse themselves once they reach adulthood. Do they just keep collecting trophies around the galaxy and supervising and cleaning up after the young Predators that occasionally allow an infestation of Aliens to get out of control?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-vs-predator-movie-anyone-looking-forward-to-it/221397/87 "2004-01-07T23:37:58Z")

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One word: eBay.

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**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alien-vs-predator-movie-anyone-looking-forward-to-it/221397/88 "2004-01-08T13:41:05Z")

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Look at the trophy case in **Predator 2**. Once you reach adulthood, I’m guessing you’re allowed to get your own hunting license and go off on your own whenever you feel like it.

Of maybe everything stays the same, only now they get to sit at the “Grown up table” during family get togethers.

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