# All About Eve

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 18, 2002, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884 "2002-03-18T16:04:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/181 "2002-03-22T16:05:16Z")

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**Eve** :

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> Straight men simply cannot deal with Baby’s Little Secret

I know you’re going off your own experiences, **Eve** , but I wish you wouldn’t generalize. I’m a straight man, and I once dated a TS girl. She was pre-op, even, but I had no qualms about it whatsoever, and I’d do it again if I happen to meet another I’m attracted to.

Now, I have a follow-up question from this page: do you ever feel your missing penis getting stroked by **jesuslynch** ’s uncle’s missing hand?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/182 "2002-03-22T16:35:34Z")

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Well, Fiver, you are one in a million. Not that I have dated a million men, you understand . . . Five hundred thousand, tops.

Last I saw Jesuslynch’s great uncle’s missing hand, it had made off with my ATM card and was headed for the bank—HEY! Somebody stomp on that hand before it gets to the corner!!

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/183 "2002-03-22T18:18:44Z")

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**Eve** , what can I say? You look pretty damn good in that photo! (as do **Miss Creant** and **Persephone** , of course!) Look forward to seeing you more on the boards!

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**Author:** ![jesuslynch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jesuslynch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesuslynch)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/184 "2002-03-22T20:27:12Z")

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What the hell is wrong with you people? 4 hours and no Adams Family references (other than the irrepressable Eve).

Now, back to the question I was trying to ask.

Does it ever feel like Mr. Happy is still around?

Any phantom boners?

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/185 "2002-03-22T20:44:08Z")

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Why would anyone comment on **The Addams Family** , instead of the classic **The Beast With Five Fingers** _(far superior to subsequent imitations)_?

I figured **Eve’s** reference to a disembodied hand could not represent anything other than clear proof that at last **Eve** had cast off her mmisguided and transient infatuation with cinema’s glamour days, and was redirecting her focus to an area near and dear to my heart - old “B” horror movies. To think that all of those Friday and Saturday nights I stayed up late as a teenager, eating popcorn and watching **Creature Features** and **Svengoolie** , were simply and inevitably drawing me closer to my darling **Eve**.

There’s no use in denying fate, dear.

Now if THAT ain’t proof of an impishly subtle yet awesomely intelligent designer, what more could you want?!

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/186 "2002-03-22T21:24:30Z")

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I just saw this thread, and I have a few things to say.

A) I have known that **Eve** had had the courage to surgically correct an accident of birth for over a year. A fact I had no inclination to share with anyone, as it has nothing to do with pretty much anything.

B) It is none of my business who she WAS…it is only my business to appreciate who she IS…and I do, very much. Actually, I appreciate her even MORE for having to courage to start this thread. (Don’t let the turkeys get you down, hon…let 'em gobble all they want, almost NONE of us speak turkey. And no one feels the need to hire an interpreter, either.)

C) **DAVEW0071** , you are not only a red-hot cutie, you are a wonderful DARLING man. Don’t tell anyone, mind, but if it weren’t for my newly found made up SO [sub]and your equally marvelous wife[/sub] I would be all over you like chocolate on shortbread!

I have only one question for you, **Eve** dear…

D) How come no one invited ME to tea at the Algonquin? Blast…I miss ALL the fun!

Much Love to you, beautiful person!

Cheri

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**Author:** ![Cap\_n\_Crude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Cap\_n\_Crude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cap_n_Crude)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/187 "2002-03-22T21:33:13Z")

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Ummm, okay. I haven’t been too active myself lately, so I missed all of what’s going on here. But as long as our beloved **Eve** is back in the fold, all\* is well in the world. Personal revelations notwithstanding, she makes this board what it is. Any uncomfortable questions I may have will be saved for face-time, and probably not asked in that event anyway.

Ed. note: The SDMB makes no guarantees of world wellness. Results may vary.

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**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/188 "2002-03-22T21:54:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Scotticher \*  
> **It is none of my business who she WAS…it is only my business to appreciate who she IS…and I do, very much.**

Indeed, **Scotti**. I mean, I used to be a _baby_, as I’m sure, did all of you - but I tell you a secret… if you look up my skirts, you won’t see any diapers. Haven’t worn them in years, in fact.

[sub]_fixed coding_[/sub]

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**Author:** ![merrily](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@merrily](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/merrily)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/189 "2002-03-22T21:55:33Z")

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Kelly M: Here is my source:

[http://www.va.gov/OGC/page.cfm?pg=17](http://www.va.gov/OGC/page.cfm?pg=17)

Go to PREC 15-90

Excerpt:  
"HELD

Under Texas law, where a veteran has anatomically changed his/her sex by undergoing sexual-reassignment surgery and has thereafter legally married a member of his/her former sex, his/her marriage partner may be considered the veteran’s spouse for the purpose of determining entitlement to additional vocational rehabilitation allowance payable on account of a dependent spouse."  
(I got it a little wrong: it wasn’t the surviving spouse, but the veteran, who was transgendered.)

Your sources?

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/190 "2002-03-22T22:01:01Z")

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Absolutely, **Tansu** dear…and let us just hope we don’t end up having to wear them again at the OTHER end of our lives. I know that is a sad thought. Sorry…I have an ageing father, and I hope it doesn’t come to that with him, as he would hate it with the burning passion of a thousand suns.

So would I, if it came to that with me.

::Sigh::

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**Author:** ![KellyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@KellyM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyM)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/191 "2002-03-22T22:07:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by merrily \*  
> \*\*Your sources? \*\*

I will note that the holding you cite is a 1990 holding, and is probably no longer good law as Texas has more recent law which states that a transsexual may not lawfully marry a person of the same sex as his or her birth sex. That case, _Littleton v. Prange_, was decided in (I believe) 1999 and is being referenced by virtually every press story about the recent Kansas case. You can find a reference to it at [http://www.ntac.org/pr/000813kat.html](http://www.ntac.org/pr/000813kat.html), and in many other places.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/192 "2002-03-22T22:25:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Scotticher \*  
> **Don’t tell anyone, mind, but if it weren’t for my newly found made up SO [sub]and your equally marvelous wife[/sub] I would be all over you like chocolate on shortbread!**

[An inter-board reference!](http://65.69.77.33/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2009) I feel like I touched a universal chord.

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**Author:** ![DAVEW0071](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DAVEW0071](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DAVEW0071)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/193 "2002-03-22T22:56:50Z")

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**Eve** , I would hate to be labeled a “snarky idiot” or be seen as a pedantic fuddy-duddy, but when you said:

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> Dave—I’m about 5"5". I am VERY lucky to have come from a teeny-tiny little family.

I had quite a bit of trouble picturing you as only ten inches tall. Unless your family were all refugees from a flea circus. Not to dwell on your _faux pas_, but I think you meant to type 5’ 5". Reminds of the Stonehenge scene in _Spinal Tap_. I mean, that would make **Miss C** and **Persephone** microscopic. And I saw the former in The Shirt last January. She’s not microscopic.

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> But my voice isn’t all THAT sultry

Phooey. In the aural receivers of my imagination, it is.

**Scotti** :

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> DAVEW0071, you are not only a red-hot cutie, you are a wonderful DARLING man. Don’t tell anyone, mind, but if it weren’t for my newly found made up SO and your equally marvelous wife I would be all over you like chocolate on shortbread!

_::swoon::_

That does it. **Ukulele Ike** is but a memory. I’m throwing him over for you in a New York minute!😃

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/194 "2002-03-22T23:04:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> \*\* Dave—I’m about 5"5". I am VERY lucky to have come from a teeny-tiny little family. But my voice isn’t all THAT sultry—When it started to change when I was a teenager, I stayed in the alto/soprano section of the school choir, to keep my upper registers open. “Plan ahead!” \*\*

**Dave** , she’s being modest. It’s pretty damn sultry. Think Kathleen Turner from back before her voice became a parody of itself.

It’s not often that a shot-and-a-beer guy like myself gets to be the envy of the Algonquin. But I was that day.

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/195 "2002-03-22T23:39:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DAVEW0071 \*  
> **Scotti** : _::swoon::_
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> That does it. **Ukulele Ike** is but a memory. I’m throwing him over for you in a New York minute!😃

I’d say something clever here, but I am lovestruck and babbling.

Whatcha’ doing this weekend?😃

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/196 "2002-03-23T01:06:00Z")

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Dahlink, you know I would read if I could find it-I’m simply addicted to all things Royal.

Here’s a link:  
[http://www.royalfamily.org/album/portraits/port6.htm](http://www.royalfamily.org/album/portraits/port6.htm)

I don’t know what it is-I guess it’s that serious scholar thing…plus he was a Slav-very dark Serbian, spoke French, played the piano and was a complete bibliophile and very moody.  
**jesuslynch** -it’s called “phantom pain”, or just plain ol’ “phantom sensation”…it’s not uncommon amoung amputees to feel their missing limbs and even to feel excrutiating pain from them.  
[http://www.royalfamily.org/album/portraits/port6.htm](http://www.royalfamily.org/album/portraits/port6.htm)

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Creant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Miss\_Creant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Creant)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/197 "2002-03-23T01:34:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DAVEW0071 \*  
> \*\ ***Eve** ,… I mean, that would make **Miss C** and **Persephone** microscopic. And I saw the former in The Shirt last January. She’s not microscopic. \*\*

I may not be microscopic, but **The Shirt** [sub]tm[/sub] certainly could be classified as such.I

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/198 "2002-03-23T02:05:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DAVEW0071 \*  
> \*\*Ukulele Ike is but a memory. I’m throwing him over for you in a New York minute!😃 \*\*

Why, you fickle BITCH!

The truth is OUT now…I have ALWAYS considered you a snarky idiot and a pedantic fuddy-duddy.  
{stomping off in a huff}  
{or a minute and a huff, to deprive **DAVEW0071** of the satisfaction of making the Groucho reference}

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**Author:** ![Scarlett13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@Scarlett13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett13)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/199 "2002-03-23T02:16:09Z")

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Who cares!

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**Author:** ![DAVEW0071](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DAVEW0071](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DAVEW0071)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-about-eve/98884/200 "2002-03-23T02:17:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by manhattan \*  
> \*\ ***Dave** , she’s being modest. It’s pretty damn sultry. Think Kathleen Turner from back before her voice became a parody of itself.
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> It’s not often that a shot-and-a-beer guy like myself gets to be the envy of the Algonquin. But I was that day. \*\*

**I _KNEW_ it!** Life is goooood! Thank you, **manny**! And I envy you your Algonquin experience. Ah, the Algonquin – Alexander Woolcott, S.J. Perelman, Dorothy Parker, and now, **Eve**.

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> Whatcha’ doing this weekend?

Why, **Scotti** , darling, I’m celebrating **Geobabe’s** and **Uncle Bill’s** engagement with them! Would that you could join us.

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> Why, you fickle BITCH!
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> The truth is OUT now…I have ALWAYS considered you a snarky idiot and a pedantic fuddy-duddy.

Your wrath cannot sting me, **Ike**. Fact is, I’m rather proud of the fact that I’m a snarky idiot, a pedantic fuddy-duddy as well as a fickle bitch. They are hard-earned appellations. So there. 😛

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