# all Abu Ghraib pic on the net **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 16, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537 "2006-03-16T00:31:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![al129](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6de8d8/32.png) [@al129](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al129)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/1 "2006-03-16T00:31:38Z")
since this may end in the pit anyhow … this is the link to all the 279 pics and 19 vid’s of it [http://www.salon.com/news/abu\_ghraib/2006/03/14/introduction/](http://www.salon.com/news/abu_ghraib/2006/03/14/introduction/) (may not be workplace safe and might be explicit or desgusting - use at your own discretion) alfred ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/2 "2006-03-16T00:43:49Z")
Holy crap. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/3 "2006-03-16T00:55:22Z")
Pretty sickening ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/4 "2006-03-16T01:59:14Z")
And YET there are those who would deny it, or try to justify it. Where’s the outrage? Where’s the accountability? ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/5 "2006-03-16T02:13:16Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > And YET there are those who would deny it, or try to justify it. Where’s the outrage? Where’s the accountability? Two years ago? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/6 "2006-03-16T02:24:46Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > Two years ago? Nope, didn’t notice much myself. Hell, I remember plenty of people - well known and unknown - playing the “it never happened”, the “they are bad and deserve it” and the “you hate America” crap. So now it’s two years later? Is it safe to assume it still happens? Is it safe to assume the “prime movers” and the enablers behind it got off scot free? Or is there some statute of limitation that protects these sorts? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/7 "2006-03-16T02:26:27Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Nope, didn’t notice much myself. Hell, I remember plenty of people - well known and unknown - playing the “it never happened”, the “they are bad and deserve it” and the “you hate America” crap. So now it’s two years later? Is it safe to assume it still happens? Is it safe to assume the “prime movers” and the enablers behind it got off scot free? Or is there some statute of limitation that protects these sorts? I almost forgot… There were and always are the “let’s wait until all the facts are in” crowd. Strange how many times the final facts were even worse, whatever the case in discussion. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/8 "2006-03-16T02:26:29Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > Two years ago? Should be enough time for the CIA agent or agents who were responsible for the homicide to be charged… interesting that they haven’t, yes? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/9 "2006-03-16T02:32:28Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I almost forgot… There were and always are the “let’s wait until all the facts are in” crowd. Strange how many times the final facts were even worse, whatever the case in discussion. yea, I remember all those folks. I remember the ones talking about “oh, boo hoo, they had to be naked in front of a female, boo hoo” and specifically remember folks like Rush L using the phrase “college pranks”. I also remember at the time the Republican Senator who kept on saying that the ones that had been released were mild in comparison that there was much, much more and much much worse, but since the pics hadn’t been released the usual suspects around here were absolutely in lock step. You’d have thought that at some fucking point in time some of those assholes would admit “you were right about the WoMD, you were right about the whole damn Iraq invasion, you were right about the torture and abuse, maybe, just maybe …” nah - it’d never happen. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/10 "2006-03-16T02:42:44Z")
Note to self: When humiliating, demoralizing and physically harming inmates in a military prison - do not let my friends take photos. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/11 "2006-03-16T02:43:41Z")
You were right about the WoMD, you were right about the Iraq Invasion. … I wasn’t surprised by the torture and abuse, though, I’ve heard too many stories of similar things happening in Korea, Nam, and WWII. ---
**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/12 "2006-03-16T02:55:52Z")
I looked at the photos on Salon site earlier tonite… It’s sad and sick and maddening. The sickest part is that the perpetrators took the photos as trophys. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/13 "2006-03-16T03:25:15Z")
> [@wring](#): > > yea, I remember all those folks. I remember the ones talking about “oh, boo hoo, they had to be naked in front of a female, boo hoo” and specifically remember folks like Rush L using the phrase “college pranks”. That’s just about the time I started to really LISTEN to Limbaugh and pay attention to the bile he was spewing. I quickly realized he was a lying rat bastard who’d anally rape his own mother if it helped his damn ratings. Can you tell I can’t stand him? ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/14 "2006-03-16T04:20:09Z")
All I can say is that I can’t imagine _anyone_ not being BEYOND PROUD to be the significant other of SPC Harmon or CPL Graner. I personally think she ought to be expecting a cover-shoot from Vogue. Their parents must be grinning like the Cheshire cat. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/15 "2006-03-16T06:29:50Z")
I have never been so ashamed of my country. Yes, I said my country. These people were sent as representatives of the US. And they made a complete mockery of everything the US is supposed to stand for. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/16 "2006-03-16T13:52:54Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Nope, didn’t notice much myself. Hell, I remember plenty of people - well known and unknown - playing the “it never happened”, the “they are bad and deserve it” and the “you hate America” crap. So now it’s two years later? Is it safe to assume it still happens? Is it safe to assume the “prime movers” and the enablers behind it got off scot free? Or is there some statute of limitation that protects these sorts? There were also those who made the case that we only saw ‘before’ and ‘after’ pics. For all we knew, these guys were taken out of their king sized feather beds, put up on boxes with hoods on their heads and wires attached to their hands, had their pictures, snapped, and the were given a good massage before being returned to their country club cell. Or, of course, that’s bullshit. But doesn’t stop people from claiming it. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/17 "2006-03-16T16:20:43Z")
> [@wring](#): > > You’d have thought that at some fucking point in time some of those assholes would admit “you were right about the WoMD, you were right about the whole damn Iraq invasion, you were right about the torture and abuse, maybe, just maybe …” > > nah - it’d never happen. [Which reminds me](http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2842): > [@Cal Thomas](#): > > All of the printed and voiced prophecies should be saved in an archive. When these false prophets again appear, they can be reminded of the error of their previous ways and at least be offered an opportunity to recant and repent. Otherwise, they will return to us in another situation where their expertise will be acknowledged, or taken for granted, but their credibility will be lacking. Wonder if ol’ Cal has repented, or reminded any of the other false prophets of their need to repent. Yeh, riiiiight. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/18 "2006-03-16T16:27:49Z")
The cells were clearly cold. ducks and runs ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/19 "2006-03-16T16:31:35Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > [Which reminds me](http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2842): > Wonder if ol’ Cal has repented, or reminded any of the other false prophets of their need to repent. > > Yeh, riiiiight. I’m sure it’s all the fault of libruls for thinking bad thoughts and therefore making Iraqi’s unhappy about having their country occupied. Remember - the Right don’t use logic, facts or a knowledge of history or human nature when making decisons. They rely on Magical Thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537/20 "2006-03-16T18:45:45Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > The cells were clearly cold. No, they were in the pool! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-abu-ghraib-pic-on-the-net/348537.md?page=2)