# All conservatives on the "there's nothing to this Russia thing" train, come on down. (Shodan) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 4, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181 "2018-02-04T19:24:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/101 "2018-02-06T19:54:06Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Oh dear. It’s worse than we thought. Oh no!!! I’ve attracted the attention of the half wit. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/102 "2018-02-06T19:55:35Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Yes, it did come from me. You wouldn’t have needed to ask if you had just read (and comprehended!) my name attached to my post. I’m laughing because you are one of the dumbest posters on this board with one of the most inappropriate user names on this board. Its clear you know very little about economics and you’re not really smart enough to comprehend the difference between good and evil. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/103 "2018-02-06T19:57:33Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Not that **Buck Godot** can’t fight his own battles, but which section in the following, exactly, are you saying has something to do with grooming Trump for the Presidency? > > “Hey, Mr. Trump your reputation as a great business man proceeds you. I understand you are in some need of investment capital. I have some friends who have some money that they are having a hard time investing. Maybe I can make some introductions, set up some low interest loans, maybe buy a few or your unused properties? Things like that.” > > :dubious: I don’t think I’ve ever read a response by **Damuri Ajashi** which showed that he actually comprehended the post he was responding to. I think he only reads every other word and the angry voices in his head fill in the blanks. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/104 "2018-02-06T19:58:59Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Not that **Buck Godot** can’t fight his own battles, but which section in the following, exactly, are you saying has something to do with grooming Trump for the Presidency? > > “Hey, Mr. Trump your reputation as a great business man proceeds you. I understand you are in some need of investment capital. I have some friends who have some money that they are having a hard time investing. Maybe I can make some introductions, set up some low interest loans, maybe buy a few or your unused properties? Things like that.” > > :dubious: I’m not familiar enough with Buck Gadot to know if he can fight his own fights or not but his whole post is a conspiracy theory. I could weave equally fanciful tales about anyone. Not much evidence for any of it but why let that stop them. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/105 "2018-02-06T20:00:33Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I’m laughing because you are one of the dumbest posters on this board with one of the most inappropriate user names on this board. Its clear you know very little about economics and you’re not really smart enough to comprehend the difference between good and evil. Interesting. Cite the posts of mine that show that 1) I know very little about economics, and 2) I can’t comprehend the difference between good and evil. For everyone else: I’m taking bets on whether **Damuri Ajashi** actually manages to provide a cite written by me. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/106 "2018-02-06T20:02:43Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I’m not familiar enough with Buck Gadot to know if he can fight his own fights or not but his whole post is a conspiracy theory. I could weave equally fanciful tales about anyone. Not much evidence for any of it but why let that stop them. The post you are responding to asked, and I quote: which section in the following, exactly, are you saying has something to do with grooming Trump for the Presidency? Notice how you didn’t address the actual question asked in any way? The whole central thesis of the post you’re responding to, and you missed it. Good job, Captain Comprehension! ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/107 "2018-02-06T20:04:47Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Well, treason usually requires a treasonous act. A wink a nod doesn’t usually qualify. Again, I never mentioned treason. But why should you start actually reading what I write now? And a wink and nod certainly can qualify for the formation of an agreement. > [@Damuri](#): > > If you’re nt trying to get him impeached or anything like that, then WTF is the point again? What exactly are you tying to achieve (I ask for the second time in this thread) Piddling stuff like enforcing the laws. Or are you one of those who think the only reason there is an investigation is to impeach Trump? > [@Damuri](#): > > Under indictment for lying not for anything thy actually did other than the lying part. You’re going to hang them with lying under oath? Good luck with that. Some of us think that lying under oath is and should be a crime. YMMV. And why, in your fevered imagination, do you think they’re lying? For fun? Or maybe, to cover something up? > [@Damuri](#): > > If you didn’t actually mean to say that there isn’t anything there, then what do you think is there? Again, I didn’t say there isn’t anything there. Indictments are there, for sure. The investigation … that’s there. The firing of Comey, the appointment and then firing of Flynn are there. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/108 "2018-02-06T20:06:51Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > For everyone else: I’m taking bets on whether **Damuri Ajashi** actually manages to provide a cite written by me. Put me down for 25 quatloos on him citing something that doesn’t say what he thinks it says. Seems to be a trend for him. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/109 "2018-02-06T20:07:35Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Under indictment for lying not for anything thy actually did other than the lying part. You’re going to hang them with lying under oath? Good luck with that. William Jefferson Clinton might want to discuss that with you. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/110 "2018-02-06T20:08:01Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > For everyone else: I’m taking bets on whether **Damuri Ajashi** actually manages to provide a cite written by me. Anyone thinking about betting should be aware that last time I challenged **Damuri Ajashi** to cite something he claimed I said, he linked to someone else’s post. Then when called on it, claimed that even if I didn’t write it, I was certainly thinking it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/111 "2018-02-06T20:15:48Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I’m not familiar enough with Buck Gadot to know if he can fight his own fights or not but his whole post is a conspiracy theory. I could weave equally fanciful tales about anyone. Not much evidence for any of it but why let that stop them. Fact: Trump had been in talks with Putin associate Aras Agalarov to build Trump Tower Moscow since at least November of 2013. Fact: accused money launderer Irakly Kaveladze represented Agalarov during that infamous meeting about [del]Hillary[/del] [del]sanctions[/del] “adoptions”. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/112 "2018-02-06T20:20:08Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > No they were tools for political destabilization. Standard economic sanctions, particularly when targeted to select goods or individuals, are tools to try and correct the behavior of other states. The current Russian sanctions are nowhere near as global or far-reaching as they would need to be to truly destabilize the ossified nature of Putin’s centralized regime. Only something like an embargo, like the U.S. embargo on most trade with Cuba, is something that is explicitly designed for political destabilization and regime collapse. But as history has clearly shown, even that failed to meet such lofty goals. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/113 "2018-02-06T20:50:09Z")
2013? Hell, the KGB was working on getting Turmp as an agent, willing or otherwise, at least as far back as 1986. He went to Moscow in July 1987, then bought big ads in September critical of US foreign policy and indicated presidential ambitions. The timing is incredibly suspect. That didn’t work out, but Russian mobsters/oligarchs have been laundering money through Turmp since the early 90s. That was good enough until the big sanctions hit. The Magnitsky Act passed in late 2012 and LeRoy spurred Putin into working our small handed Cadet Bone Spurs into the Oval Office. Other than generally spreading chaos at home and abroad, the one specific thing Putin wanted was sanctions lifted. The cover story about adoptions. Flynn and numerous others getting caught talking to Russians about sanctions relief before taking office. The very first thing Turmp tried to do when sworn in. His refusal to impose the new sanctions passed overwhelmingly. He’s working for the Russians. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/114 "2018-02-07T00:19:29Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I’m not familiar enough with Buck Gadot to know if he can fight his own fights or not but his whole post is a conspiracy theory. I could weave equally fanciful tales about anyone. Not much evidence for any of it but why let that stop them. Neither the topic of the thread nor the side of the argument that you were on prompted me to comment on your post. I commented because your post made it clear that you had no interest in anything that was being said. If you’ve no interest in the topic that you’re debating, then I would question your motives in posting. And with a lack of engagement with the topic so flagrant, I think it’s fair to say that you’ve no expectation of credibility among anyone reading your posts. You’re just wasting your own and everyone else’s time. To be sure, that’s your right. But I fail to see how that’s serving you or anyone else any good in life? If you’re grumpy, bitching about things that you’re not really interested in on the Internet is probably not the most healthy strategy for filling your days. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/115 "2018-02-07T02:26:12Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > What do you think the genesis of the “Russia tampered with out election” comes from? I though at least part of it was Russian hackers hacking DNC and Hillary campaign emails to uncover incriminating evidence of Hillary and the DNC colluding and cheating to thwart Bernie. Sure, he didn’t look like he had much of a chance but then again, neither did Obama. You’re way confused. The Mueller probe didn’t start with Russian hackers. It started with allegations of Trump supporters meeting with Putin supporters who wanted to get Russian sanctions lifted. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > So what if Kushner was attracted to Russian promises of dirt on Hillary. What do you think they will uncover? Because unless its clear and convincing evidence of collusion against the national interests of the United States like when Nixon colluded with the Viet Cong to prevent peace until after the election or Reagan’s negotiations with the Iranians to hold onto the hostages until after the election, how do you see this playing out if it turns out that he DIDN’T collude with the Russians against the interests of the USA? Again, why would Trump supporters meet with Putin supporters? Again, haven’t conservatives been describing Russia as American enemies for decades? How come they changed their tune? You remember, the people who stole Crimea from the Ukraine and against who most of the world and the US agreed to impose sanctions? The ones who took Assad’s side in the Syrian conflict and drove millions of refugees to swamp Europe? The ones who sell arms to NK? The Putineers aren’t exactly reliable trading partners. Cease your feeble attempts to distract us from Trump supporter criminal activity with yet even more squawking about Hillary. She’s gone. She’s powerless. That mean ol’ liberal lady is’t around to scare you any more. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/116 "2018-02-07T02:36:15Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I didn’t say we should be “listening” to Trump. I’m fact, I even explained that it probably wasn’t Trump but someone else in his administration that was heroically advising against enforcing sanctions. > > I understand you need a tough guy as president so you can also feel like a tough guy, that’s just not how I get off. A tough guy??? Oh please. Trump is a mouthy (yet whiney) bitch. He’s the yappy little dog you love to kick. Cadet Bone Spur, the guy who got deferments because he was just a chicken shit draft dodger, is not tough by ANY means. The asshole who thinks taking advantage of crooked deals and lording it over employees, is not a tough guy. He’s only “tough” against anyone who can’t fight back. He’s a damn pussy, a punk ass bitch, a fake and a wannabe. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/117 "2018-02-07T02:40:35Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Cease your feeble attempts to distract us from Trump supporter criminal activity with > yet even more squawking about Hillary. She’s gone. She’s powerless. That mean ol’ liberal lady is’t around to scare you any more. They don’t have anything else. I put this Damuri Ajashi on IGNORE a while back. I’m not sorry about that. He’s just not worth my time. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/118 "2018-02-07T03:51:29Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Speaking as someone who would be described as a liberal anywhere south of Maryland, the intelligence of the long time conservatives on this board is noticeably higher than the long time liberals on this board. The intelligence of the long time conservatives I’ve cited is certainly higher than that of a long time poster who would be described as a liberal anywhere south of Maryland, I’ll give you that much. Then again, so is my laundry basket. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > Clean or dirty? Empty. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/119 "2018-02-07T03:53:01Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > A tough guy??? > > Oh please. Trump is a mouthy (yet whiney) bitch. He’s the yappy little dog you love to kick. Cadet Bone Spur, the guy who got deferments because he was just a chicken shit draft dodger, is not tough by ANY means. The asshole who thinks taking advantage of crooked deals and lording it over employees, is not a tough guy. He’s only “tough” against anyone who can’t fight back. > > He’s a damn pussy, a punk ass bitch, a fake and a wannabe. +10 ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/120 "2018-02-07T04:15:41Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I even explained that it probably wasn’t Trump but someone else in his administration that was heroically advising against enforcing sanctions. “The buck stops…well, somewhere over there.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181.md?page=7)