# All conservatives on the "there's nothing to this Russia thing" train, come on down. (Shodan) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 4, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181 "2018-02-04T19:24:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/121 "2018-02-07T12:12:08Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > A tough guy??? > > Oh please. Trump is a mouthy (yet whiney) bitch. He’s the yappy little dog you love to kick. Cadet Bone Spur, the guy who got deferments because he was just a chicken shit draft dodger, is not tough by ANY means. The asshole who thinks taking advantage of crooked deals and lording it over employees, is not a tough guy. He’s only “tough” against anyone who can’t fight back. > > He’s a damn pussy, a punk ass bitch, a fake and a wannabe. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Spray-painting dumpsters with male genitalia and the word “Fuck”, seems more your speed. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/122 "2018-02-07T12:32:53Z")
> [@ganthet](#): > > Standard economic sanctions, particularly when targeted to select goods or individuals, are tools to try and correct the behavior of other states. The current Russian sanctions are nowhere near as global or far-reaching as they would need to be to truly destabilize the ossified nature of Putin’s centralized regime. Only something like an embargo, like the U.S. embargo on most trade with Cuba, is something that is explicitly designed for political destabilization and regime collapse. But as history has clearly shown, even that failed to meet such lofty goals. “Correct” the behavior. I spy your perspective. The US would be flying solo on any sanctions like that. They had to beg and plead to Europe just to get the sanctions they got. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/123 "2018-02-07T12:42:03Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > “The buck stops…well, somewhere over there.” Do you actually think Trump is interested in making policy? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/124 "2018-02-07T13:33:08Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Spray-painting dumpsters with male genitalia and the word “Fuck”, seems more your speed. Jesus, convert this loser. Make him normal, give him goals, show him the light. Amen. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/125 "2018-02-07T15:28:13Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Jesus, convert this loser. Make him normal, give him goals, show him the light. > Amen. Shouldn’t you be tossing a baby onto a bayonet somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/126 "2018-02-07T15:34:31Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Shouldn’t you be tossing a baby onto a bayonet somewhere? Nah, that’s Tuesdays. Wednesdays we make nachos. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/127 "2018-02-07T15:37:22Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Nah, that’s Tuesdays. > > Wednesdays we make nachos. [Old joke] “Well, you’re gonna hate Thursdays.” [/old joke] ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/128 "2018-02-07T17:28:55Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Do you actually think Trump is interested in making policy? You got kicked in the head by a cow as a child, right? That explains your overwhelming stupidity and unwavering support for a shitgibbon, yes? ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kearsen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/129 "2018-02-07T17:37:03Z")
> [@Bouncer](#): > > This. Its the financial shenanigans that are going to bring him down. Everyone’s all screaming about memos and FISA warrants and pee-tapes and such, meanwhile Mueller’s executing warrants in the Grenadines, Cyprus, St. Vincent and Germany against foreign banks with Trump/Putin/Russian Mafia ties. > > I’d suspect Mueller knows quite a bit more than he’s letting on. I think he’s building a case based on decades of evidence and behaviors, and “colluding in the Russian attempt to influence the US election” is going be like criminal charge #63. > > It’s not that Trump suddenly learned to love Russia because they could leak Democrat emails. Trump has been walking hand in hand with Putin and his oligarchs for decades as one of their money laundering conduits. He knew what he was doing the whole time, he didn’t care, because it’s business. He was making his bank, and getting his “loans that never have to be repaid at 0.0% interest” (effectively a payoff) from them for years. > > That’s what Mueller’s going to bring with the indictments. The criminal history (and it will be a history) of Donald Trump. Granted some may be unprosecutable because of the statute of limitations (maybe, I don’t know), but he’ll still bring that info out because it’s background. It’s going to be: “The Unauthorized Criminal Biography of Donald J. Trump, by Robert S. Mueller ESQ.” Gonna be a best seller, too! > > Regards, > -Bouncer- I want in on some of this action! Say $500 worth? ---
**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/130 "2018-02-07T18:09:30Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Most Democrats I know don’t worship the party and show a loyalty that overrides lies, contradictions and hypocrisy like all too many Republicans do. > > Shodan is drinking the kool-aid a bit hard if he honestly believes what he wrote here. **Shodan’s** a contrarian in the perfect medium: liberals with lots of time to kill. What he believes is irrelevant to what he does. Scorn and derision, tempered with amiable concern, is manna from above. - More and more this is looking like the magnum opus for many a conservative. The nastier the better. It’s… …survival mode/on. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/131 "2018-02-07T19:30:32Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Cease your feeble attempts to distract us from Trump supporter criminal activity with > yet even more squawking about Hillary. She’s gone. She’s powerless. That mean ol’ liberal lady is’t around to scare you any more. Shorter, so conservatives can understand: you won, get over it. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/132 "2018-02-07T20:15:19Z")
Better: You won, it’s all your problem now. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/133 "2018-02-07T20:16:17Z")
> [@OwnRules](#): > > **Shodan’s** a contrarian … No, I’m not. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/134 "2018-02-07T23:26:24Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > > [@OwnRules](#): > > > > **Shodan’s** a contrarian … > > No, I’m not. > > Regards, > Shodan Credit where it’s due. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/135 "2018-02-08T00:27:02Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I’m not familiar enough with Buck Gadot to know if he can fight his own fights or not but his whole post is a conspiracy theory. I could weave equally fanciful tales about anyone. Not much evidence for any of it but why let that stop them. First off its Godot (the man everyone is waiting for). Secondly, the point of my timeline wasn’t to claim that it was a 100% accurate blow by blow if what happened (I wasn’t there I don’t know), but to argue that the Putin/Trump relationship didn’t start with > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > “Hey we have dirt on the Hilliary campaign that points to cheating by Hillary with the help of the DNC and DNC operatives during the Democratic primary. **And we’ll give it to you if you commit treason**.” And the Trump campaign says “cool, give it to me”? right off the bat, but instead was just the next step in an alliance between the two that had been slowly building over time. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181/136 "2018-02-10T15:14:24Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Spray-painting dumpsters with male genitalia and the word “Fuck”, seems more your speed. That sounds more like your speed, doesn’t it? Isn’t there an alt right rally you’re late for? Don’t forget your tiki torch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-conservatives-on-the-theres-nothing-to-this-russia-thing-train-come-on-down-shodan/808181.md?page=6)