# All Diablo2 Talk here......... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 11, 2003, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956 "2003-04-11T03:20:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1561 "2004-03-15T09:20:59Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > From what I’ve read, it’s because they don’t want people stockpiling them. No, it doesn’t make sense to me, either. > > And **Yeti** , Hellrack does a ton of damage (especially elemental), but be advised that it needs 163 strength (as would an upgraded Buriza, assuming that’s possible). Yes, it is. Buriza only needed an upgrading bar when GA could pierce. Now that’s been nerfed, you can upgrade the Blizzard Cannon - I think it winds up doing about 160-500 damage (plus the cold). ---
**Author:** ![theckhd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@theckhd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theckhd)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1562 "2004-03-15T13:25:56Z")
I think that the fact that you can only hold one anni per character would be enough to keep people from stockpiling them though. _shrug_ **Chronos** : I can take a look, but my assassin already has dual Shadow Killers and Jade Talons, so i think i’ll probably stick with those for the +skills and resists. Thanks though. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1563 "2004-03-15T19:09:36Z")
I still want to take a look at the buriza and hellrack…my strength is 173 with all the strength mods on my items BUT I have an additional 9 ability points that I haven’t allocated yet…I just gotta take the time to see what her base strength is and see what combination of items I need to keep her strength high enough…(but I think I know that the 173 strength is when she’s equipped with Titan’s…meaning that I probably have 153 strength when I equip the buriza…with the 9 extra points I have, I will be on 1 strength point short, but I will just have to level up in order to be able to handle the upgraded items…if they are worthy of upgrading (high-end on the ED%)… **theckhd** , if you need the space, go ahead and move those to items to the commie mule so I can take the time to mull it over… **Chronos** , thanks for that awesome poison charm…175 over 6 for a small charm is the best I’ve ever seen… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2004, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1564 "2004-03-15T21:41:21Z")
I looked it up, and that poison charm is the most you can get from a single affix, though you can in principle get more if you also have a poison suffix, and it’s only available from Baal and a select few other bosses. To really get the most out of it, though, you’d want to put it on a Poison Dagger necromancer, due to the way in which poison damage stacks (this used to also work with a Venom assassin, but apparently they decided that was too powerful, so now other sources of poison damage hardly stack at all with Venom). And I don’t think these claws are in the same class as Shadow Killers (don’t remember the exact stats on them), but they’re still very good. It’s a shame we don’t have more Dopers on West to give things to. ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1565 "2004-03-19T13:52:55Z")
How would I upgrade a Buriza? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1566 "2004-03-19T15:26:18Z")
> [@thinksnow](#): > > How would I upgrade a Buriza? Cube it (of course) with a Lum, a Pul and a PEmerald. ---
**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1567 "2004-03-19T17:49:52Z")
I may have to bring myself over to the West Side. I have been playing on East, but everyone has disappeared and it’s not that fun to play by myself all the time! Where is everybody? About the Buriza…I thought that was one that you couldn’t upgrade? That would be silly powerful with my wolf druid. He is tearing through NM right now with a regular buriza and doing about 2k damage with Feral RAge. An upgraded Buriza would be sick! ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1568 "2004-03-19T18:25:41Z")
> [@My Darn Snake Legs](#): > > I may have to bring myself over to the West Side. I have been playing on East, but everyone has disappeared and it’s not that fun to play by myself all the time! Where is everybody? > > About the Buriza…I thought that was one that you couldn’t upgrade? That would be silly powerful with my wolf druid. He is tearing through NM right now with a regular buriza and doing about 2k damage with Feral RAge. An upgraded Buriza would be sick! You can only upgrade from exceptional to elite on the Ladders. The previous rumors regarding not being able to upgrade came from people trying to do it on non-Ladder realms. It is pretty sick, but it is a big Str. Req. jump. My opinion is that it’s not worth it for bowazons, unless you have an excellent source of equip/charm strength. ---
**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1569 "2004-03-19T18:42:19Z")
Woah…I may have to do that then. I have a Super Headstriker, but if I had known about the Buriza I would have done that! Too bad you can’t take characters from realm to realm… ---
**Author:** ![theckhd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@theckhd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theckhd)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1570 "2004-03-19T23:24:31Z")
**Munch** i believe that originally, blizzard wasn’t going to make Buriza and a few other exceptional uniques upgradeable because they felt they would be too strong. However, during the development of 1.10 they made everything a little harder than they originally planned, and made the elite unique weapons stronger than the originally were. As a result, they decided to drop these restrictions. Plus, if you do the calculations, Hellrack still does more total damage (and has a greater damage output) than a fully upgraded Buriza (though i believe the buriza does more physical damage than Hellrack). By the way, **MDSL** if you feel like joining the “West Side” and starting a new character, let me know. I’d like to start a sorc sometime soon, and it would be fun to have company. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1571 "2004-03-19T23:32:49Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > You can only upgrade from exceptional to elite on the Ladders. And in SP, of course. I don’t yet know if Ladder-only items can spawn in SP games because they’re all so hard to find, but I’ll keep you posted. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1572 "2004-03-20T00:39:11Z")
> [@My Darn Snake Legs](#): > > Woah…I may have to do that then. I have a Super Headstriker, but if I had known about the Buriza I would have done that! Too bad you can’t take characters from realm to realm… Yeah, but there will be an annihilus charm waiting for you when you get here… 😉 …and other goodies await! I actually have one of each type of character and a rune mule barb… Amazon…86…Hell Paladin…50…NM or Hell Barb…24…Norm Sorc…15…Norm Druid…15…Norm Necro…15…Norm Assass…14…Norm Rune Barb.16…Norm I’m game if you wanna run around and kill things early on… Also, I found Athena’s Wrath with good damage and +2 to Druid skills… Gand…I’m still interested in the Hellrack if you’re not interested in keeping it… ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1573 "2004-03-20T00:42:33Z")
Couple of other things… **Chronos** (or anyone else), what do you use to re-roll a charm? **Evil & Munch** …how about taking the plunge and going on the West ladders? ---
**Author:** ![theckhd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@theckhd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theckhd)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1574 "2004-03-20T04:25:25Z")
**Yeti** I’ll be on some tonight to give you that hellrack btw the recipie is 3 perfect gems + magical item = new magical item (of same type) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1575 "2004-03-20T06:52:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Also, I found Athena’s Wrath with good damage and +2 to Druid skills… Yeah, Baal has been generous with the polearms the past few days. My paladin’s merc is now using a Reaper’s Toll dropped by the ugly guy. BTW, if any Westerners (including immigrants from East) want an upgraded (exceptional) Woestave, it’s up for grabs. The damage isn’t great, but it has a lot of nice bonuses like Blinds Target, Freezes Target, Open Wounds, Reduce Monster Defense, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1576 "2004-03-20T14:38:02Z")
[QUOTE=My Darn Snake Legs] I may have to bring myself over to the West Side. I have been playing on East, but everyone has disappeared and it’s not that fun to play by myself all the time! Where is everybody? [QUOTE] Yeah, I know **punha** was getting DSL and would be off for a bit, although it’s been longer than I thought, but everybody seemed to disappear. Maybe I’ll start up a West account to play with Dopers. I’m not going to desert East, but one or two West characters could be fun. I don’t have a lot of time for the next week or so, but after that I should have time to level one to a useful level fairly quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1577 "2004-03-20T14:51:47Z")
I was thinking the same thing! Having a “West” character could be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1578 "2004-03-23T03:19:07Z")
Damn, is everybody taking time off? I’m going to start a West account tonight. I’ll post the name eventually. ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1579 "2004-03-23T13:44:35Z")
I’ve got a West character from a long time ago, I’m sure it’s long since gone. I’ve been offline due to some issues with the new computer I built and overclocking heat concerns. I hope to be back in the East a day or three. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1580 "2004-03-23T14:09:06Z")
> [@Yeticus Rex](#): > > Couple of other things… > > **Chronos** (or anyone else), what do you use to re-roll a charm? > > **Evil & Munch** …how about taking the plunge and going on the West ladders? 1. You reroll with 3 flawless gems, just like any other magic item. 2. I’d love to, but I don’t have a connection at home. > [@Evil Death](#): > > And in SP, of course. I don’t yet know if Ladder-only items can spawn in SP games because they’re all so hard to find, but I’ll keep you posted. Yup, they do. I’ve found two Windhammers and a Shadowkiller (or whatever the non-Jade Talon assy weapon is). I’d recommend giving The Pit a few hundred once overs. It’s in the Tamoe Highlands (but only do it on Hell diff.). My skellimancer just blazes through it, and has over 500% MF. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956.md?page=78) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956.md?page=80)