# All Diablo2 Talk here......... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 11, 2003, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956 "2003-04-11T03:20:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 95
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1881 "2004-05-20T14:43:00Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > Absolutely, if we’ve found them;) Similarly I’m counting items for which we’ve traded, which is why Zod was not on the list of things we ain’t found. > > Updated list of items of which we know have never controlled at least one: > > Frostwind; Is this still meant to be on the list? There were two before and you took one out. > [@](#): > > BTW, this applies to SP as well as [B.net](http://B.net), lest those who are reduced (as I am) to offline play don’t feel left out, though my list of SP finds is disgustingly small (running with the asn recently I found a raven frost, which was MOST welcome). Oh, good, I can play. From your list, I’ve found Giant Skull, Steelrend, and rune Ber. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1882 "2004-05-20T15:30:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Halaberd’s Reign (note that there are two of that name) All I could find listed by that name is the barbarian helm. What’s the other? And while we’re at it, could we get that list organized somehow (helmets shields body armor swords maces etc)? A big ol’ block of text is hard to make sense of. For that matter, how did you construct this list in the first place? Just going through all of the pages at The Arreat Summit? ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1883 "2004-05-20T16:36:00Z")
> [@Who\_me?](#): > > I believe **Phase42** and I found a Gore Riders (I don’t remember for sure because he said he needed it so I never really had it in hand). No Gore Riders here. I remember there was something I needed, but I think it was a set item. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1884 "2004-05-20T17:56:47Z")
> [@Phase42](#): > > No Gore Riders here. I remember there was something I needed, but I think it was a set item. Hmmmm… maybe it wasn’t you… I remember that the item was unique boots that had a crushing blow mod on them… I hate trying to remember something about D2 at work where I can’t look anything up… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1885 "2004-05-20T18:40:02Z")
> [@](#): > > I remember that the item was unique boots that had a crushing blow mod on them… That’s either Goblin Toe light plated boots, with 25%, or Gore Rider war boots, with 15%. But Gore Rider has a bunch of other nifty mods, while Goblin Toes pretty much only has the CB. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1886 "2004-05-20T18:49:55Z")
Now Goblin Toe I do have, but I found those solo some time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1887 "2004-05-20T19:11:24Z")
I’ve found Heaven’s Taebaek just last week… ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1888 "2004-05-20T23:52:51Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > That’s either Goblin Toe light plated boots, with 25%, or Gore Rider war boots, with 15%. But Gore Rider has a bunch of other nifty mods, while Goblin Toes pretty much only has the CB. Then it _was_ a Gore Rider because it was an elite… now who was with me when we found them? I remember that he wanted them for his pally and it wasn’t **theckhd** , **Chronos** , or **Yeti** … A Goblin Toe I know, and have at least one in both realms, it wasn’t them. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1889 "2004-05-20T23:57:42Z")
Okay, in checking… now that I’m home… not an elite. The top exceptional boot. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1890 "2004-05-21T00:02:41Z")
I’m not post padding… really I’m not. **punha** , the Canebreak that you have on your list… is that a typo? I have found a Cranebeak elite warspike with magic-find on East and gave it to someone, maybe **MDSL** … ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1891 "2004-05-21T05:18:10Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > For that matter, how did you construct this list in the first place? Just going through all of the pages at The Arreat Summit? Close; went through the pages at [D2.net](http://D2.net) and eliminated everything **vol** or I had found (the list was a LOT smaller pre-1.10). **Who\_me?** , yeah it is a typo. I’ve deleted it from the list. Updated list organized by item type: **Belts** : Verdungo’s Hearty Cord **Armor** : Leviathan; Spirit Keeper; Steel Carapace; Templar’s Might; Tyrael’s Might **Boots** : Merman’s Sprocket **Gloves** : Souldrain **Helms** : Crown of Ages; Halaberd’s Reign; Nightwing’s Veil; Steelshade; Spirit Ward **Rings** : Wisp Projector **Amulets** : Metal Grid; Seraph’s Hymn **Barb Helms** : Demonhorn’s Edge; Halaberd’s Reign (note that there are two of that name) **Druid Helms** :Cerebus’ Bite; Ravenlore; Spirit Keeper **Necro Shields** : Boneflame; Darkforge Spawn **Paladin Shields** : Dragonscale; Alma Negra **Axes** : Death Cleaver; Executioner’s Justice; Messerschmitt’s Reaver; Widowmaker **Bows** : Windforce **Crossbows** : Gut Siphon **Daggers** : Ghostflame **Maces** : Earth Shifter; Shaefer’s Hammer; The Cranium Basher **Polearms** : Tomb Reaver **Spears** : Steel Pillar; Viperfork **Staves** : The Redeemer; Mang Song’s Lesson **Swords** : Frostwind; The Grandfather **Wands** : Death’s Web **Runes** : Ja and Lo **Set Pieces** : Griswold’s Redemption and Honor ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1892 "2004-05-21T06:06:57Z")
Couple more typos: Spirit Ward is a shield, not a helmet, and Widowmaker is a bow, not an axe (and a really lousy bow, at that: Less damage and higher reqs than most exceptionals). Interestingly, the Armet version of Halaberd’s Reign isn’t listed on Arreat Summit, but it is listed on [diabloii.net](http://diabloii.net). And did you bother with exceptional and normal items at all, or just take it for granted that we’ve gotten all of them? I’m not sure that any of us have gotten a Cow King’s Horns, for instance. Also, I note that you don’t have either unique circlet listed… Do we have them? ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1893 "2004-05-21T06:18:51Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And did you bother with exceptional and normal items at all, or just take it for granted that we’ve gotten all of them? I’m not sure that any of us have gotten a Cow King’s Horns, for instance. Also, I note that you don’t have either unique circlet listed… Do we have them? I completed the Cow King set in 1.09; a friend used it to MF NM cows with a Strafeazon. I did neglect the norm and exceptional uniques figuring we’d found them all, but I’d forgotten that the two unique circlets were not elites. I’ll wait to see if anyone else has stuff to take off the list before I post it again. ---
**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1894 "2004-05-21T13:48:30Z")
I get to contribute to the list! On East I have both the Cranium Basher and the Messerschmitt’s Reaver. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1895 "2004-05-21T21:05:58Z")
So I got to thinking about potless characters. Asn was easy enough taking her through to the end of NM. Barbs wouldn’t work well, but I could probably do 'em decent enough. I tried a Paladin and he’s level 23 in A2 and showing no signs of slowing down. A Sorceress. Doesn’t leech, doesn’t have an army to protect her, just freezes stuff (probably maxed orb for the freezing time) and probably maxed fireball (for the solid damage and for the faster cast than orb, meteor or wall). Also a good bit of Eshield and Telekinesis and plenty of warmth. This is gonna be tough. Any advice, especially from folks who’ve played sorcs a good bit, is most welcome. (The list will be updated end of the day, for those who can’t manage to block out from the already-posted list what MDSL said he had;)) ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1896 "2004-05-21T21:17:16Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > So I got to thinking about potless characters. Asn was easy enough taking her through to the end of NM. Barbs wouldn’t work well, but I could probably do 'em decent enough. I tried a Paladin and he’s level 23 in A2 and showing no signs of slowing down. > > A Sorceress. Doesn’t leech, doesn’t have an army to protect her, just freezes stuff (probably maxed orb for the freezing time) and probably maxed fireball (for the solid damage and for the faster cast than orb, meteor or wall). Also a good bit of Eshield and Telekinesis and plenty of warmth. > > This is gonna be tough. Any advice, especially from folks who’ve played sorcs a good bit, is most welcome. How about a combat Enchant-sorc? They get good damage _and_ leech. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1897 "2004-05-21T22:15:38Z")
> [@](#): > > This is gonna be tough. Any advice, especially from folks who’ve played sorcs a good bit, is most welcome. For starters, my sorc doesn’t even bother carrying blue potions. I probably gave her too much energy, but the result is that she can go for a few minutes at a time, with a continual barrage of meteors interspersed with fireballs, before running out, and she actually regenerates mana when just using meteors. Next time I’m on, I’ll check just how much energy she has. And she usually manages to stay back enough to avoid damage; if she’s bad off enough to need a red potion in the middle of combat, she’s probably dead anyway. You might also try a hydra sorceress, since she doesn’t need to see action at all (just shoot around corners, or from out of enemy range) Healing between battles could be handled by life regen equipment, a Prayer merc, or many portals back to town. If you’re taking damage, teleport back to a safe area, and resume clobbering from a distance. The only real problem is when you go down a dungeon level and are immediately ambushed, with nowhere to teleport to (this has happened to me a few times in the Throne of Destruction). I would recommend against trying this with an enchantress… While she can do decent damage, most of her damage is not physical, and hence no good for leeching. For other classes, you might try a druid, with maxed Carrion Vine and Feral Rage/Hunger, but I’m not big on druids, so I’m largely guessing there. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1898 "2004-05-21T23:39:56Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I would recommend against trying this with an enchantress… While she can do decent damage, most of her damage is not physical, and hence no good for leeching. She’d also kill very slowly, especially since enchant is level 19;) ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1899 "2004-05-22T00:32:14Z")
Hell, the easiest no potion character has got to be a summoning necro. After he’s got a few skeletons, a golem, and a merc to hide behind, all he does is sit around waiting to do something. And if you go Blood Golem, he’ll heal you from any incidental damage you take. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2004, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956/1900 "2004-05-22T04:44:22Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > She’d also kill very slowly, especially since enchant is level 19;) Evidently in my sleepiness-induced haze, I mistyped 18. **Who\_me?** , incidentally I had such a necro and couldn’t manage to get him past Duriel in Norm, though Duriel is a task and a half for spellcasters early on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956.md?page=94) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-diablo2-talk-here/167956.md?page=96)