# All European descended people are really black **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 22, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221 "2009-12-22T18:11:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/41 "2009-12-22T23:29:17Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Damn, I feel gypped. There wasn’t a scrap of comedic value in that thread! Oh I dunno, I think it was worth it for the following comedic juxtaposition: > [@Some Nazi](#): > > "Please try to grasp that this site has strict rules against posting usubstantiatied factual claims. It has nothing to do with a claim’s being “offensive.” It has to do with a claim being factually inaccurate. If you fail to grasp this simple point you will not be allowed here. " Followed by his signature: > [@](#): > > Why are people in Canada being jailed for nothing more than having an opinion that Jews don’t like? > Stop the hate against democracy in Canada! > Raise your voice against Jewish Supremacism! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/42 "2009-12-22T23:29:33Z")
If you click another link in the cached version (don’t worry, it seems safe), they also claim Edward VII looked black. Wha? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/43 "2009-12-22T23:49:56Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The biggest reason I suspect this is that, with the Google link provided, you’ll notice that E **g** mond Codfried is the most common spelling of the guy’s name. The astute poster will also notice that the **monkey** misspelled it in his search, and even in his post. I _searched_ for ed **m** ond. But what I got was e **g** mond, which is the same name as he registered here. Hmmm. I screwed up, and yet I still got him. I also think that the thread he started, “Was Europe (1500-1789) a black civilisation?” is remarkably similar to the malware "“Blue Blood is Black Blood 1500-1789” Surely it’s not a leap to think the two may be tied? However, **BigT** , you are right in that I should report that to Google. ---
**Author:** ![St.Anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@St.Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Anger)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/44 "2009-12-23T00:02:19Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I brought this to the attention of the other mods after you reported the post. I leave it in the hands of people who know more about this stuff than I do. > It looks like he was suspended from that site for starting a thread, making counterfactual claims, and not responding quickly enough. While almost everything he has said on this board is counterfactual (i.e. _completely wrong_), you can’t accuse him of not responding. Some of his responses have been evasive and he’s done a horrible job of supporting his arguments but we’re not as hardline as Study of Racialism about requiring people to respond in a certain way. [http://thestudyofracialism.org/about5105-0-asc-100.html](http://thestudyofracialism.org/about5105-0-asc-100.html) ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/45 "2009-12-23T00:07:27Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > So ? Whether the guy is an honest to god kook, or a troll pretending to be a kook doesn’t really matter on our end of the screen, does it ? The only thing that should matter on our end is sweet, sweet entertainment. I do wonder about real Afrocentrists that go around claiming various white people in history are black. There are plenty of _black_ people to look up to if one wants. For goodness sake, there is a black family in the top office of the entire planet. Why on earth would they still need to make up stuff?? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/46 "2009-12-23T00:24:46Z")
Well, if no one else is going to bother to post evidence backing up this guy’s claim, I guess it’s [up to me.](http://www.jlcauvin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ted-danson-blackface-1b.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/47 "2009-12-23T01:00:04Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > The only thing that should matter on our end is sweet, sweet entertainment. Hell, this guy’s one of the best we’ve had since **JDT**. I hope he sticks around. (I had a Russian professor who used to joke that he was the only true Caucassian in our class – he was originally from that region) ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/48 "2009-12-23T01:05:53Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > www [dot] stormfront [dot] org/forum/showthread.php?t=634479 > > Charity selected: Dept. of African-American Studies, Temple University, c/o Prof. Molefi Kete Asante. We really should give him some props for trolling stormfront. i mean, that’s hardcore. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/49 "2009-12-23T01:07:57Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Hell, this guy’s one of the best we’ve had since **JDT**. Personally, I think they both need to be snipped. ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/50 "2009-12-23T01:09:51Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Personally, I think they both need to be snipped. Oh yes, a new rant on circumcision! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/51 "2009-12-23T01:41:00Z")
> [@Egmond Codfried](#): > > My research after three years resulted in a theory named Blue blood is black blood (1500-1789) by Egmond Codfried. Why am I hearing this in Henry Gibson’s voice? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/52 "2009-12-23T01:42:44Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > He’s very polite so far. He reminds me of **kanicbird**. He more than reminds me of the diabolicals from\* [Foucault’s Pendulum](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault%27s_Pendulum)\* : he’s one down to the last (self published) detail. The only thing missing would be an assertion that the Knights Templars were the ones doing the covering up of black kings’ portraits in beige paint. Now that I mention it, I wonder if the Templars were black, too. Must’ve been - European, mostly of noble or at least knightly lineage… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/53 "2009-12-23T02:33:56Z")
By his theories, really, wouldn’t EVERYONE then be black? ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/54 "2009-12-23T02:42:35Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > By his theories, really, wouldn’t EVERYONE then be black? Precisely. ---
**Author:** ![St.Anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@St.Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Anger)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/55 "2009-12-23T05:10:07Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > By his theories, really, wouldn’t EVERYONE then be black? Sadly, my penis size and basketball playing ability say otherwise. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/56 "2009-12-23T05:57:06Z")
> [@St.Anger](#): > > Sadly, my penis size and basketball playing ability say otherwise. 😃 Yeah, but can you jump? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/57 "2009-12-23T11:00:34Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > [George Carlin]Colin Powell is not openly black. Colin Powell is openly white. He just happens to be black.[/George Carlin] Fun fact - Colin Powell is a fluent Yiddish speaker. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/58 "2009-12-23T23:08:55Z")
> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#): > > No no no. White people actually _are_ oompa loompas. It’s just that we’re not used to seeing orange people so we cannot see them as orange. I know it’s true because something like that was in that well-regarded and well-spelled scientific documentary **what the @_&^#_ do we (k)now?!**. I’m glad I’m not the only one here to know about the oompa loompa lineage. The word is spreading, and a rapidly growing number of people are **reclaiming their racial heritage** by going to **tanning parlors.** Our government is fighting the truth, even putting a tax on tanning parlors in the health reform bill. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/59 "2009-12-24T00:02:32Z")
There’s already a growing subset of people reclaiming their Oompa-Loompa heritage. Cites; [http://www.frakincool.com/pictures/ginos-love-spray-tan/](http://www.frakincool.com/pictures/ginos-love-spray-tan/) > **[FAIL Blog](https://failblog.cheezburger.com/)** > > The internet has generated a huge amount of laughs from cats and FAILS. And we all out of cats. > **[Pale Is The New Tan](http://www.paleisthenewtan.com/)** > > A blog on terrible looking tans ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221/60 "2009-12-24T02:38:40Z")
No, no, no. Orange Blood = Blue Blood The Oompa Loompas are really Smurfs, hiding as Oompa Loompas, as the unwashed masses hate the Smurf Overlords even more than Oompa Loompas. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-european-descended-people-are-really-black/522221.md?page=4)