# All Four Forces of Physics United

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [April 12, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289 "2017-04-12T04:17:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![MANTRAPHILTER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/201 "2017-05-11T17:08:21Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Are you going to address the above or ignore the inconvenient evidence that contradicts your magnetism hypothesis?

If they haven’t taken into account the various fields of displaced space that starlight has expanded and contracted through to reach whatever instrument they are calculating the distance from at their relative position where they did their calculation, yes. It would be impossible to know all the displaced space fields of every mass that the starlight has traveled through, But still they talk as though their measurement is accurate. It’ basically bullshit.

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### Author: ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/202 "2017-05-11T17:08:56Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Wow! Luminous aether _and_ Phlogiston? It looks like you are well on your way to developing a _Unified Woo Theory_.

OP still makes more sense than Deepak Chopra.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/203 "2017-05-11T17:10:10Z")

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> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> If they haven’t taken into account the various fields of displaced space that starlight has expanded and contracted through to reach whatever instrument they are calculating the distance from at their relative position where they did their calculation, yes. It would be impossible to know all the displaced space fields of every mass that the starlight has traveled through, But still they talk as though their measurement is accurate. It’ basically bullshit.

And you’ve got cites to prove it, right?  
Right?

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### Author: ![MANTRAPHILTER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/204 "2017-05-11T17:12:02Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Wow! Luminous aether _and_ Phlogiston? It looks like you are well on your way to developing a _Unified Woo Theory_.

what is a woo theory?

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/205 "2017-05-11T17:13:13Z")

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> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> If they haven’t taken into account the various fields of displaced space that starlight has expanded and contracted through to reach whatever instrument they are calculating the distance from at their relative position where they did their calculation, yes. It would be impossible to know all the displaced space fields of every mass that the starlight has traveled through, But still they talk as though their measurement is accurate. It’ basically bullshit.

You’re making this up as you go, aren’t you?

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### Author: ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/206 "2017-05-11T17:14:18Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And you’ve got cites to prove it, right?  
> Right?

It is intuitively obvious that any observation or measurement which contradicts this theory is wrong, and they are all wrong in exactly the same way, which validates this theory. QED

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/207 "2017-05-11T17:14:20Z")

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> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> what is a woo theory?

Look up “woo”.  
Look up “theory”.  
Do the math.  
I’m sorry-I totally forgot you don’t _do_ math.

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/208 "2017-05-11T17:14:35Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> OP still makes more sense than Deepak Chopra.

Don’t be so sure. Give him a link and 10 minutes and he’ll integrated DC into his hypothesis as well.

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### Author: ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/209 "2017-05-11T17:17:36Z")

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I think our friend is selling his theory short by only addressing Four Forces of Physics. Clearly there are Sixteen Forces (each of the four commonly recognized forces as propagated through each of the four dimensions) and this insight may clarify some points.

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### Author: ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/210 "2017-05-11T17:24:15Z")

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> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> what is a woo theory?

[Here you go](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Science_woo).

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### Author: ![MANTRAPHILTER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/211 "2017-05-11T17:48:53Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Look up “woo”.  
> Look up “theory”.  
> Do the math.  
> I’m sorry-I totally forgot you don’t _do_ math.

the only math I am concerned with is the Fibonacci sequence as they are real numbers to me.

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### Author: ![MANTRAPHILTER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/212 "2017-05-11T17:55:00Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> You’re making this up as you go, aren’t you?

I was having a beer and shooting pool in a bar with a friend of mine some years back, we were discussing whether the pocket watch in space would loose time or gain time. When I figured out that it would move faster, it dawned on me that there must be more space around the surface of a planet because the electron takes more time to circle its proton, I thought about it for a few years and this theory resulted.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/213 "2017-05-11T17:55:57Z")

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> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> the only math I am concerned with is the Fibonacci sequence as they are real numbers to me.

Well, there’s your problem: You can’t put 2 and 2 together if 4 isn’t a real number, can you? :rolleyes:

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### Author: ![MANTRAPHILTER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/214 "2017-05-11T17:59:36Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Well, there’s your problem: You can’t put 2 and 2 together if 4 isn’t a real number, can you? :rolleyes:

4 is an interval between two octaves.

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### Author: ![MANTRAPHILTER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/215 "2017-05-11T18:03:58Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Are you going to address the above or ignore the inconvenient evidence that contradicts your magnetism hypothesis?

I tied to click on the link and nothing showed up.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/216 "2017-05-11T18:06:40Z")

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> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> I tied to click on the link and nothing showed up.

Works fine for me.

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/217 "2017-05-11T18:10:47Z")

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> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> the only math I am concerned with is the Fibonacci sequence as they are real numbers to me.

Fibonacci was a pissant. Pascal’s Triangle is where the real numbers are at.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/218 "2017-05-11T18:12:14Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Fibonacci was a pissant. Pascal’s Triangle is where the real numbers are at.

Care to make a wager on that?

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/219 "2017-05-11T18:14:22Z")

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> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> I was having a beer and shooting pool in a bar with a friend of mine some years back, we were discussing whether the pocket watch in space would loose time or gain time. When I figured out that it would move faster, it dawned on me that there must be more space around the surface of a planet because the electron takes more time to circle its proton, I thought about it for a few years and this theory resulted.

How much beer, and have you considered your hypothesis while sober?

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### Author: ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/220 "2017-05-11T18:17:17Z")

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> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> 4 is an interval between two octaves.

I’m not sure I want to dip my toes into this pond, but what does that even mean? Are you talking about a fourth?

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