# All Four Forces of Physics United
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [April 12, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289 "2017-04-12T04:17:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 13
### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/241 "2017-05-11T21:29:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What about “…but they also laughed at Bozo The Clown”?
“[…everybody seems to think I am a crackpot. we’ll see who laughs last.](http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/104768-interested-in-comments-on-a-paper/#entry982634)”
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/242 "2017-05-11T21:42:15Z")
The mod note in that thread is the funniest bit:
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> **Moderator Note:**
> You didn’t start this thread, and the paper in question was written by H. Dieter Zeh at Universität Heidelberg, Germany. Since you’re posting from Michigan, I am going to assume you are just very confused.
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> In any event, posting to advertise your pet theory in anyone else’s thread is considered thread hijacking. Don’t do it.
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### Author:  [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/243 "2017-05-11T22:02:14Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> The mod note in that thread is the funniest bit:
I quite enjoyed:
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> … in order to wright something coherent…
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### Author:  [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/244 "2017-05-12T00:18:05Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> With this statement, , I’m pretty sure that question has been answered.
Well, he did say that he had trouble identifying sarcasm.
And, really, didn’t the Michelson–Morley experiment depend on that nasty math to disprove the ether? Lavoisier also used math, well, addition, to disprove the phlogiston theory. Once you’ve decided to rely on narrativium, rather than measurements and math, your story can go anywhere.
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### Author:  [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/245 "2017-05-12T01:44:14Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> I was not sure of the definition of luminous aether so I looked it up and yes this theory does help define the phenomenon.
I think I won the thread.
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### Author:  [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/246 "2017-05-12T02:46:10Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> I think I won the thread.
There is no winner in this thread. Only Zuul
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### Author:  [@Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itself)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/247 "2017-05-12T03:07:22Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> because of the relativity of the less space that it is in. the amount of space a proton displaces is less, relative to the less space farther away from the more space being displace by the planet, therefore time speeds up as the electron orbits the less space being displaced by the proton, than would be displaced at the surface of the planet.
This is solid physics. OK, you convinced me.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/248 "2017-05-12T10:48:47Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> There is no winner in this thread. Only Zuul
[Zuul’s dead, baby](http://nerdist.com/new-dinosaur-zuul-ghostbusters/). Zuul’s dead.
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### Author:  [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/249 "2017-05-12T12:43:03Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> because of the relativity of the less space that it is in. the amount of space a proton displaces is less, relative to the less space farther away from the more space being displace by the planet, therefore time speeds up as the electron orbits the less space being displaced by the proton, than would be displaced at the surface of the planet. I am kind of tired of restating this point. If you have questions, read the theory first, it might answer a few of them.
> [@Itself](#):
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> This is solid physics. OK, you convinced me.
[Allow me to retort…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzrjyssVQE)
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### Author:  [@Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itself)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/250 "2017-05-12T16:06:31Z")
> [@zoid](#):
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> [Allow me to retort…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzrjyssVQE)
I was hoping that would be the scene from Pulp Fiction. I don’t think the OP speaks English _or_ physics.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/251 "2017-05-12T18:14:06Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Are you going to address the above or ignore the inconvenient evidence that contradicts your magnetism hypothesis?
his belief is based on an incorrect model of gravity.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/252 "2017-05-12T18:44:11Z")
> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Well, he did say that he had trouble identifying sarcasm.
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> And, really, didn’t the Michelson–Morley experiment depend on that nasty math to disprove the ether? Lavoisier also used math, well, addition, to disprove the phlogiston theory. Once you’ve decided to rely on narrativium, rather than measurements and math, your story can go anywhere.
when you rely on measurements taken in any relative space as a basis for developing a mathematical equation to describe the universe, your equation is only relevant in the teeny tiny relative space that you took your measurement at. Math is only a language, the universe is much more complicated. So quit Idolizing math as the supreme language.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/253 "2017-05-12T18:51:36Z")
> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Well, he did say that he had trouble identifying sarcasm.
I don’t think it’s sarcasm he is having trouble recognizing.
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### Author:  [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/254 "2017-05-12T19:01:05Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> So quit Idolizing math as the supreme language.
We need more authentic frontier gibberish.
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/255 "2017-05-12T19:16:25Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> his belief is based on an incorrect model of gravity.
I know you’re not joking, but you can’t be serious.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/256 "2017-05-12T21:02:06Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I know you’re not joking, but you can’t be serious.
so is yours, sheep,
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/257 "2017-05-12T21:18:56Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> so is yours, sheep,
Oh, yeah? Well Tuesday apple banana loud!
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### Author:  [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/258 "2017-05-12T21:41:22Z")
-And Fry, you’very got that brain thing.
-I already did!
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### Author:  [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/259 "2017-05-12T22:45:27Z")
Ha! The “sheep”/“sheeple” comes out. That tells me all I need to know about the person and their ideas, whatever claim they may be making.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [May 12, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/260 "2017-05-12T22:49:33Z")
It is easy to understand how he reached that conclusion–everyone he tells his “theory” to goes “bah, bah!”
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