# All Four Forces of Physics United
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [April 12, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289 "2017-04-12T04:17:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/121 "2017-04-23T19:38:53Z")
“If it can’t be expressed in figures, it is not science; it is opinion.” – Lazarus Long
There is not a single expression or quantifiable prediction in your “finished theory”. Your theory is about as finished as a stripped pine wardrobe missing one door and infested with mountain pine beetles.
Stranger
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/122 "2017-04-23T21:56:52Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> “If it can’t be expressed in figures, it is not science; it is opinion.” – Lazarus Long
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> There is not a single expression or quantifiable prediction in your “finished theory”. Your theory is about as finished as a stripped pine wardrobe missing one door and infested with mountain pine beetles.
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> Stranger
I’m pretty sure it’s finished, as in “you’re finished in this town, pal.”
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### Author:  [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/123 "2017-04-23T22:50:09Z")
I like the bubbly blue background (you have to click “Read More” to see it)
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### Author:  [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/124 "2017-04-23T22:55:18Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> You can see the finished theory here: [https://jforkum.wixsite.com/mantraphilter](https://jforkum.wixsite.com/mantraphilter)
It’s affected, not effected. That doesn’t make me want to click on Read More.
I did, however. I wonder if the number of mistakes in basic English are equal to the number of mistakes in basic science. Apparently this must be true in order to create a fundamental balance in the universe.
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### Author:  [@Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itself)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/125 "2017-04-23T23:33:33Z")
It’s mildly interesting to note that crackpots like this rarely claim to have an idea that will explain one particular phenomenon or legitimately open problem in science; instead, they have a magic Theory of Everything that doesn’t make any specific predictions (but totally would if someone could do the math for them; they’re more big-picture people) but nevertheless explains everything ever.
So, what specific, concrete, verifiable prediction does this sneer-quoted ‘theory’ make? In grown-up science, we’ve used things like the Michelson-Morley experiment, the precession of the perihelion of Mercury, the Stern-Gerlach experinment, the anomalous magnetic moment of the electron, etc. to rigorously test new ideas. Science is not just making shit up.
Anyway, in case anyone was thinking about wasting time at the linked website, here’s a representative excerpt.
[QUOTE=A website about physics!!1]
The particles are not yet charged and would be defined as neutrons. So how does the uncharged neutron get charged?
Photons of light traveling through space as a wave, enter the “displaced space” of a particle. The photon light wave decompresses relative to the displaced space. The wave cannot compress fast enough to exit into the regular space. The uncharged particle now becomes charged, creating a proton.
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### Author:  [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/126 "2017-04-24T12:31:42Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> You can see the finished theory here: [https://jforkum.wixsite.com/mantraphilter](https://jforkum.wixsite.com/mantraphilter)
Wait, so this displacement that causes the effect we describe as ‘gravity’, has a finite boundary wall? Gravity just stops at a certain range?
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/127 "2017-04-24T15:02:19Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> You can see the finished theory here: [https://jforkum.wixsite.com/mantraphilter](https://jforkum.wixsite.com/mantraphilter)
You website says “I believe…” so often I thought you were proselytizing for your own religion.
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### Author:  [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/128 "2017-04-24T16:45:31Z")
Truth in advertising. He \*does \*believe these things.
Sucks to be him, since zero of this nonsense is connected to reality. But he \*believes \*with the fervor of a thousand religious fundamentalists.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/129 "2017-04-24T18:38:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You website says “I believe…” so often I thought you were proselytizing for your own religion.
Yes, he prefers “I believe” egotism to ivy league egotism.
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### Author:  [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/130 "2017-04-24T19:09:10Z")
> [@Riemann](#):
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> I like the bubbly blue background (you have to click “Read More” to see it)
Seconded, if the author would channel his creativity into active webpage enhancements then society could be greatly improved. Just as it was wrong to laugh at the visionary who added colorful marshmallows to unpalatable puffed rice cereal, it is also wrong to laugh at this.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/131 "2017-04-24T19:12:03Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Yes, he prefers “I believe” egotism to ivy league egotism.
I prefer my “facts” come from them edjimicated folks, I guess.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2017, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/132 "2017-05-10T03:45:15Z")
> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Wait, so this displacement that causes the effect we describe as ‘gravity’, has a finite boundary wall? Gravity just stops at a certain range?
every particle be it atomic or planetary displaces its own space relative to whatever displaced space field it is in. our planets mass displaces its own space as it occupies its position in the space being displaced by the mass of our sun.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/133 "2017-05-10T03:50:01Z")
> [@Itself](#):
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> It’s mildly interesting to note that crackpots like this rarely claim to have an idea that will explain one particular phenomenon or legitimately open problem in science; instead, they have a magic Theory of Everything that doesn’t make any specific predictions (but totally would if someone could do the math for them; they’re more big-picture people) but nevertheless explains everything ever.
>
> So, what specific, concrete, verifiable prediction does this sneer-quoted ‘theory’ make? In grown-up science, we’ve used things like the Michelson-Morley experiment, the precession of the perihelion of Mercury, the Stern-Gerlach experinment, the anomalous magnetic moment of the electron, etc. to rigorously test new ideas. Science is not just making shit up.
>
> Anyway, in case anyone was thinking about wasting time at the linked website, here’s a representative excerpt.
this theory predicts magnetic fields around black holes.
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### Author:  [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2017, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/134 "2017-05-10T09:02:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I think I can claim I’m from the True South: 13.2 degrees N. and didn’t abolish slavery until January 2nd, 1900.
You’re from Guam
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### Author:  [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2017, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/135 "2017-05-10T12:38:58Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> every particle be it atomic or planetary displaces its own space relative to whatever displaced space field it is in. our planets mass displaces its own space as it occupies its position in the space being displaced by the mass of our sun.
Which does not answer the question you were responding to.
You’ve said something that’s sorta nearby the question. But which does not answer it. Please explain your actual answer to the conceptually very simple question that was asked.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/136 "2017-05-10T13:08:00Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> this theory predicts magnetic fields around black holes.
Yes, but does it predict the Spanish Inquisition?
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### Author:  [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/137 "2017-05-10T15:17:04Z")
That would be totally unexpected. Fluffy pillow?
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### Author:  [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/138 "2017-05-10T16:00:23Z")
Every once in a while, this board manages a thread that cannot be believed if it isn’t seen. I see we have managed once again to accomplish this, though sadly, at less than 150 posts, it clearly lost steam much too quickly. I blame the original poster for this, since he steadfastly refuses to engage in verbal fisticuffs over his theory. :mad:
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### Author:  [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/139 "2017-05-10T16:34:24Z")
If only we’d all read his entire website. \*Then \*we’d get it. 😃
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### Author:  [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/140 "2017-05-10T17:25:30Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> this theory predicts magnetic fields around black holes.
Unfortunately, it’s easy to find articles about magnetic fields around black holes going back to 2000 (probably earlier, I didn’t read through more than the first page of the google results) that don’t use your system. How would your predicted fields be different from their predicted fields?
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