# All Four Forces of Physics United
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [April 12, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289 "2017-04-12T04:17:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 8
### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/141 "2017-05-11T01:10:14Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Which does not answer the question you were responding to.
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> You’ve said something that’s sorta nearby the question. But which does not answer it. Please explain your actual answer to the conceptually very simple question that was asked.
The gravitational field created by the displaced space of our planet ends at where the vacuum of space begins, but what we know as the vacuum outside of the gravitational field of our planet is the space being displaced by the suns gravitational field. its all connected.
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### Author:  [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/142 "2017-05-11T01:23:25Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> The gravitational field created by the displaced space of our planet ends at where the vacuum of space begins, but what we know as the vacuum outside of the gravitational field of our planet is the space being displaced by the suns gravitational field. its all connected.
Excuse me, waiter! Can I get blue cheese on the side of this? Thanks.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/143 "2017-05-11T01:23:33Z")
> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Unfortunately, it’s easy to find articles about magnetic fields around black holes going back to 2000 (probably earlier, I didn’t read through more than the first page of the google results) that don’t use your system. How would your predicted fields be different from their predicted fields?
I don’t know what the previous predictions are but, my observation is that the star fields have positive charge and are attracted to the negative equatorial plane of the giant particle inside the black hole as it rotates. The giant particle inside is slowly charging as more stars fall in. This particle would have its positive charge at the slowest moving part, it’s poles, and pushes away any positively charged matter. This is how the galactic plane is created.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/144 "2017-05-11T01:34:07Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> If only we’d all read his entire website. \*Then \*we’d get it. 😃
I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or if you have read the whole theory and have found some logic in it.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/145 "2017-05-11T01:40:16Z")
> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Wait, so this displacement that causes the effect we describe as ‘gravity’, has a finite boundary wall? Gravity just stops at a certain range?
The gravity (displaced space) of our planet ends at where the vacuum of space begins, but that vacuum is also part of the field of the displaced space created by our sun.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/146 "2017-05-11T02:04:45Z")
> [@Itself](#):
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> It’s mildly interesting to note that crackpots like this rarely claim to have an idea that will explain one particular phenomenon or legitimately open problem in science; instead, they have a magic Theory of Everything that doesn’t make any specific predictions (but totally would if someone could do the math for them; they’re more big-picture people) but nevertheless explains everything ever.
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> So, what specific, concrete, verifiable prediction does this sneer-quoted ‘theory’ make? In grown-up science, we’ve used things like the Michelson-Morley experiment, the precession of the perihelion of Mercury, the Stern-Gerlach experinment, the anomalous magnetic moment of the electron, etc. to rigorously test new ideas. Science is not just making shit up.
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> Anyway, in case anyone was thinking about wasting time at the linked website, here’s a representative excerpt.
This theory explains what holds together the tetra neutrino recently discovered at the France super hadron collider.
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### Author:  [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/147 "2017-05-11T02:08:01Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or if you have read the whole theory and have found some logic in it.
You’ve solved the universe and you can’t tell if he is being sarcastic? :dubious:
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/148 "2017-05-11T02:14:04Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Every once in a while, this board manages a thread that cannot be believed if it isn’t seen. I see we have managed once again to accomplish this, though sadly, at less than 150 posts, it clearly lost steam much too quickly. I blame the original poster for this, since he steadfastly refuses to engage in verbal fisticuffs over his theory. :mad:
I am very busy and do not have the time to comment on things that don’t involve the theory. Most of the people commenting have not read the completed version, and are more interested in snide derogatory comments so they can display how clever they are, or prove they have some sort of a personality.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/149 "2017-05-11T02:16:58Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> You’ve solved the universe and you can’t tell if he is being sarcastic? :dubious:
I would have to know the person better to make that assumption.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/150 "2017-05-11T03:05:25Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> A brief review of the o.p.:
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> The hypothesis has some delightfully unfounded speculation and many densely constructed paragraphs of repetitious gobbledygook but the grammar is too coherent, there is a lack of non-sequitur analogues referencing cetaceans or koalas, and there is no introduction of cromulent neologisms or bigoted screeds about the broken education system, ‘coloreds’ diluting the gene pool though miscengenation, or or uppity feminists and the Woman’s Lib movement. Gene Ray gives this only two out of a possible five Time Cubes.
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> Stranger
this was copied over from the original paper and this forum did not show it in the original way it is written, or any of the illustrations. So it reads like nonsense and the theory does not get conveyed well at all.
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/151 "2017-05-11T03:32:29Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> this was copied over from the original paper and this forum did not show it in the original way it is written, or any of the illustrations. So it reads like nonsense and the theory does not get conveyed well at all.
Does anyone but you actually understand it, let alone corroborate your findings?
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/152 "2017-05-11T04:40:34Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Does anyone but you actually understand it, let alone corroborate your findings?
If you haven’t read the finished version of the theory you probably will not understand it. the theory explains why gravity appears so much weaker than the strong nuclear force. why energy is quantized. why we can’t see inside a black hole, and how electrons can be wave or particle. The theory also explains what is holding together the recently discover tetra neutron at the france hadron collider.
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### Author:  [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/153 "2017-05-11T05:43:34Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> If you haven’t read the finished version of the theory you probably will not understand it. the theory explains why gravity appears so much weaker than the strong nuclear force. why energy is quantized. why we can’t see inside a black hole, and how electrons can be wave or particle. The theory also explains what is holding together the recently discover tetra neutron at the france hadron collider.
It really doesn’t explain anything
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### Author:  [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/154 "2017-05-11T06:51:09Z")
> [@zoid](#):
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> It really doesn’t explain anything
That’s the beauty of it.
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### Author:  [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/155 "2017-05-11T06:53:08Z")
> [@MANTRAPHILTER](#):
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> The gravity (displaced space) of our planet ends at where the vacuum of space begins
How is the moon still here?
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/156 "2017-05-11T11:23:43Z")
> [@Mangetout](#):
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> How is the moon still here?
In his theory, the moon is really made of displaced space charged neutrons decompressed photons tetra waller glooble glooble gleep. If you read his whole theory, it will make sense.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/157 "2017-05-11T11:27:50Z")
> [@Mangetout](#):
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> How is the moon still here?
the moon also displaces its own space and occupies a point in the displaced space of the earth which occupies a point in the displaced space of the sun. All three displaced spaces overlap at the distance the moon orbits the earth and create a zone of space greater that the moon travels in.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/158 "2017-05-11T11:44:35Z")
I see that the OP [continues to post](http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/105352-language-barriers/) on Science Forums, including apparently thinking that Einstein started the quaint fad of using math in science:
> [@Man Trap](#):
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> I think I see the problem, Everyone is so impressed with Einstein and his E=MC2 theory that they believe math is the answer to explain the universe. So everyone studies math and comes up with these crazy formulas because they want to be Einstein. If you can,t support a theory with math, its not a theory, show the math formula. You are all a bunch of Einstein wannabees - sheep. Displaced space explains how gravity works at the quantum level and unites all the forces, like it or not.
Also of note:
> [@Man Trap](#):
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> So when anyone claims mathematical equasions can describe the universe we live in, they might as well be running around with there thumb stuck up there ass and drooling.
So the OP has progressed from the “naively expecting everyone to instantly accept his genius” stage of crackpottery to the “angrily lashing out because he is not given the adulation he so richly deservves” stage.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/159 "2017-05-11T11:53:33Z")
> [@zoid](#):
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> It really doesn’t explain anything
it explains that unless you can be in two places at the same time, all of the results of any scientific measurement or calculation are relative too the point in space where you took the measurement and made your calculation, since you can’t compare it using the same instruments at the original relative point without the instruments of measurement also being relative in the second point where you perform the same calculation. This means any calculation made by the results of measuring with any instrument, will fall far short of describing the entire picture of the universe we live in.
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### Author:  [@MANTRAPHILTER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MANTRAPHILTER)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-four-forces-of-physics-united/784289/160 "2017-05-11T11:59:25Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I see that the OP [continues to post](http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/105352-language-barriers/) on Science Forums, including apparently thinking that Einstein started the quaint fad of using math in science:
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> Also of note:
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> So the OP has progressed from the “naively expecting everyone to instantly accept his genius” stage of crackpottery to the “angrily lashing out because he is not given the adulation he so richly deservves” stage.
If I were to meet you in person do not ask me to shake your hand, I know where your thumb has been.
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