# All hail the brave pro-rape faction of the Teeming Millions!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 25, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864 "2018-09-25T00:04:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/21 "2018-09-25T18:59:31Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> So you are ok with a suspected rapist on the most influential Court of Appeals in the land?:dubious:

Either you’ve misunderstood **Procrustus** , or you’re not being clear yourself.

They were clearly saying that they think claims that this “ruins” Kavanaugh’s life are overblown, because even if this derails his career aspirations for supreme court justice, he’s still got a lifetime career as a powerful judge in DC. Not exactly a life ruined.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/22 "2018-09-25T23:12:38Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> I kind of stopped reading that thread after a while, but this one from early on encapsulates it all for me:
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> Locking in a conservative supreme court is more important than standing up against any other harm the GOP does to our country, or standing up for women and sexual assault victims, apparently.
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> “You can grab 'em by the pussy and move on them like a bitch as long as you fuck the Dems in the ass while you do it” is the mantra of the current GOP.

I do think we need to be fair here. He posted that before Ford’s accusation. Since then, he posted a a couple thing about whether what was accused was attempted rape (first saying no because he didn’t have the full accusation, then saying yes), and comments how blaming someone else for the attempted rape was a dick move, but otherwise stayed out of it.

He may frustrate the hell out of me, but he’s not a rape apologist. (At least, as far as I’ve read.)

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/23 "2018-09-25T23:42:29Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I do think we need to be fair here. He posted that before Ford’s accusation. Since then, he posted a a couple thing about whether what was accused was attempted rape (first saying no because he didn’t have the full accusation, then saying yes), and comments how blaming someone else for the attempted rape was a dick move, but otherwise stayed out of it.
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> He may frustrate the hell out of me, but he’s not a rape apologist. (At least, as far as I’ve read.)

Meh. Trump himself has admitted to sexual assault in the same vein. Frankly, if **Bricker** says “oh, dear me, I believe it likely that Kavenaugh committed a crime unto American Law, we should find a different candidate,” I would roll my eyes, as he’s already admitted that he’s willing to accept a President who admits to sexually assaulting women as long as he’s a Republican. Why should I believe that he gives a fuck whether or not Kavenaugh assaulted someone, except insofar as it affects Kavenaugh’s chances of being approved?

And, at this point, “staying out of it”/backing out of the conversation when it gets too sticky to publicly stand by your man is no defense.

> [@Trump](#):
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> I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. . . . And when you’re a star, they let you do it, you can do anything. Grab them by the pussy.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> I can’t stand Trump, but man, his judicial nominations make the other shit sandwich ingredients palatable.

> [@BigT](#):
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> He may frustrate the hell out of me, but he’s not a rape apologist. (At least, as far as I’ve read.)

. . . not a rape apologist, but a sexual assault apologist.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/24 "2018-09-26T00:01:00Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> . . . not a rape apologist, but a sexual assault apologist.

I’m not confident enough about the precise definitions of those words to say there’s a difference.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/25 "2018-09-26T22:37:37Z")

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Can we include in this pitting all the defenders of the creepy as fuck **Skald**? If he isn’t the funny uncle in his “hypotheticals” I’ll vote GOP in 2020.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/26 "2018-09-27T02:09:03Z")

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Pretty sure Bricker voted for Clinton.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/27 "2018-09-27T02:10:38Z")

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Ok, so we’re only going to go so far in dismantling the rape culture here, good to know. Saves time.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/28 "2018-09-27T02:32:22Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Can we include in this pitting all the defenders of the creepy as fuck **Skald**? If he isn’t the funny uncle in his “hypotheticals” I’ll vote GOP in 2020.

Are people still defending him, though? I thought he had been kind of keeping a low profile since all that crap came out about him. Not that I disagree with you!

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/29 "2018-09-27T02:41:38Z")

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Well, yeah he’s gone back in his cave to jerk off to his collection of his niece’s panties, but there are dopers here who are outraged at Starving Artist’s comments who were very quick to defend **Skald** and who have never owned up to their culpability.

ETA: I just thought since we’re having a moment here, we could revisit that shameful chapter.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/30 "2018-09-27T03:03:08Z")

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Yeah, that is true. **BigT** defended Skald tooth and nail and then slunk off after he was shouted down. He’s (rightly) outraged by **Starving “for adolescents” Artist** , though. **BigT** , what’s up with that?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/31 "2018-09-27T03:09:08Z")

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Yeah, he is the one who really springs to mind. It’s clear that popular rape apologists get a pass here, while someone like SA who is repugnant and unpopular are easy targets.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/32 "2018-09-27T12:50:14Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> …It’s clear that popular rape apologists get a pass here…

Zowie. You could paint a house in one stroke with a brush that wide.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/33 "2018-09-27T13:38:38Z")

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Obviously, I disagree. More than anything, the dope is a safe space for old men and it’s not just uninterested in other views and experiences, but actively hostile to them. It’s why people can call this board liberal with a straight face while ignoring its endemic misogyny. This board has a real problem when it comes to rape and sexism and its why its dying. It’s the same old men having the same conversations over and over and when someone points out that some of what their saying is fucked up, they get shouted down.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/34 "2018-09-27T13:43:45Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Obviously, I disagree. More than anything, the dope is a safe space for old men and it’s not just uninterested in other views and experiences, but actively hostile to them. It’s why people can call this board liberal with a straight face while ignoring its endemic misogyny. This board has a real problem when it comes to rape and sexism and its why its dying. It’s the same old men having the same conversations over and over and when someone points out that some of what their saying is fucked up, they get shouted down.

I think people can have blind spots, and misogyny is one of them; progressives also tend to be unaware of other biases too, such as those about race.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/35 "2018-09-27T15:17:39Z")

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**Shodan** basically saying people that get gang raped at parties want it.

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21233172&postcount=4001](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21233172&postcount=4001)

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/36 "2018-09-27T15:20:26Z")

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I confess, I often get Shodan and Starving Artist confused, then I remember that Shodan is the piece of shit who closes with regards an SA is the piece of shit who doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/37 "2018-09-27T16:10:53Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> So you are ok with a suspected rapist on the most influential Court of Appeals in the land?:dubious:

If we want to get him off the Court of Appeals, he’d have to be impeached. That doesn’t seem very likely, since it would require 2/3rds of the Senate voting for it.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hail-the-brave-pro-rape-faction-of-the-teeming-millions/821864/38 "2018-09-27T21:32:07Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> If we want to get him off the Court of Appeals, he’d have to be impeached. That doesn’t seem very likely, since it would require 2/3rds of the Senate voting for it.

What if the state of Maryland decides to do something about him? There’s no statute of limitations for this shit in Maryland.

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