# All hands report to port side (booze advice) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 27, 2014, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hands-report-to-port-side-booze-advice/696616 "2014-08-27T07:17:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hands-report-to-port-side-booze-advice/696616/21 "2014-08-28T06:26:24Z")
Thanks for the fortified wine education, **Dr. Righteous** and **Saturn Dreams**! ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hands-report-to-port-side-booze-advice/696616/22 "2014-08-28T07:58:58Z")
> [@Saturn\_Dreams](#): > > That’s because Sherry is produced in Spain and Port is made in Portugal, just like how true Champagne is made in the Champagne region of France. Other countries can make sherry and port, but it would only be in the name of the style only, just as how California wineries make Champagne-method wines and call them sparkling. What is port-like alcohol called when it’s not from Portugal? ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hands-report-to-port-side-booze-advice/696616/23 "2014-08-28T10:09:03Z")
Having researched it more on the basis on the info here, it looks like it’ll be an oloroso cherry. As pointed out, they are cheaper than port, perhaps because sherries suffer from a bad association? When I think “sherry”, the image that comes to mind is a middle-aged alcoholic woman. I will get the oloroso if available because it’ll keep good even after being opened, which less oxidized fortified wines do not handle well. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hands-report-to-port-side-booze-advice/696616/24 "2014-08-28T12:09:27Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > What is port-like alcohol called when it’s not from Portugal? “Port.” 😉 Sometimes they get slapped down, sometimes they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hands-report-to-port-side-booze-advice/696616/25 "2014-08-28T12:55:24Z")
> [@Dr.Righteous](#): > > Let me build on what **scabpicker** mentioned, which is tawny port. > > Tawny ports are usually seen with designations on them like 10 year, 20 year, 30 year etc. which means the average age of the wine inside is that number of years old. I prefer the 20 year, as I think its the best balance of age and price (because of course the longer they age it the more it will cost) I agree here. I’ve had a few 40 year, and the taste isn’t better, just different and the price is like 10x the cost of a 20. As a regular port, I like Taylor-Fladgate. (there’s a knockoff that has a similar name. “Tayler” or something that’s just out-and-out disgusting. It tastes like wood varnish and shoe-polish smells. It’s also like $10.00/bottle and the labels look similar to Taylor-Flagate. Don’t buy it. ---
**Author:** ![Saturn\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Saturn\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saturn_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hands-report-to-port-side-booze-advice/696616/26 "2014-08-28T13:53:29Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > What is port-like alcohol called when it’s not from Portugal? They have to call it port-style or something similar. Appellations are regulated by the country that conferred it, but that protection is only good for countries that recognize it. For example, the USA signed a bilateral agreement with the EU back in 2006 that officially recognized each other’s designated appellations, so US vintners could not sell their port-style wines as Port just as EU countries could not make Napa wines. (※There was a grandfather clause that allowed wineries selling region-protected wines before the pact came into effect to keep selling them using the same name as long as their place of origin was clearly stated. A good example of this would be Korbel Champagne from California.) However, if country doesn’t have an agreement like this in place, there is nothing to stop them from making another wine (or any product for that matter) and calling it port. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hands-report-to-port-side-booze-advice/696616/27 "2014-08-28T14:45:37Z")
So, the booze ended up being Canasta cream, an oloroso sherry. 15$CAN. The second bottle was a 1999 vintage porto bottled in 2001 from Sandeman. “Vau vintage” it’s called. I went into the store looking for an LBV tawny but was informed that there is no such thing as that combination. The Sandeman vintage was 25$CAN and recommended by the clerk so I bought it. I think I prefer the sherry. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hands-report-to-port-side-booze-advice/696616/28 "2014-08-28T16:44:49Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > So, the booze ended up being Canasta cream, an oloroso sherry. 15$CAN. > > The second bottle was a 1999 vintage porto bottled in 2001 from Sandeman. “Vau vintage” it’s called. I went into the store looking for an LBV tawny but was informed that there is no such thing as that combination. The Sandeman vintage was 25$CAN and recommended by the clerk so I bought it. > > I think I prefer the sherry. Port really needs the savory snack alongside, unless one is a port fanatic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-hands-report-to-port-side-booze-advice/696616.md?page=1)