# all my friends like empire strikes back the best but I like return of the jedi **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 4, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257 "2010-05-04T04:26:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/61 "2010-05-05T19:24:32Z")
You know what. I am tired as heck of everyone making fun of me just because I don’t know some obscure little Star Wars detail. There is no reason to be so mean ---
**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/62 "2010-05-05T19:27:03Z")
Folks, to be fair to **Cisco** , he did just finish a course in International Postmodern Literature. He’s obviously suffering from temporary insanity. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/63 "2010-05-05T19:39:42Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > You know what. I am tired as heck of everyone making fun of me just because I don’t know some obscure little Star Wars detail. There is no reason to be so mean > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > You, my friend, are a Star Wars noob. 😉 > > Boba Fett’s ship is named _The Slave I_. > > His name was first mentioned in _Return of the Jedi_. If you look at what I posted and see someone who’s being mean to you, I really don’t know what to tell you. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/64 "2010-05-05T19:44:02Z")
“Noob” is mean? Somebody needs to grow a few millimeters of tegument. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/65 "2010-05-05T19:44:56Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > You know what. I am tired as heck of everyone making fun of me just because I don’t know some obscure little Star Wars detail. There is no reason to be so mean Dude, _you didn’t know the name of Slave I_. Next you’re gonna tell us you don’t know what color underwear Wedge Antilles’ older brother Richard Antilles wears. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/66 "2010-05-05T19:45:52Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Dude, _you didn’t know the name of Slave I_. Next you’re gonna tell us you don’t know what color underwear Wedge Antilles’ older brother Richard Antilles wears. Trick question: Depends on the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/67 "2010-05-05T19:47:52Z")
> [@carl corey](#): > > folks, to be fair to **cisco** , he did just finish a course in international postmodern literature. > > He’s obviously suffering from temporary insanity. **THANK Y** o **U!** ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/68 "2010-05-05T19:55:11Z")
I don’t know about that. **Cisco** ’s been around 10 years. Isn’t that stretching the definition of “temporary?” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/69 "2010-05-05T20:06:23Z")
Not for this board. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/70 "2010-05-05T20:07:22Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > You know what. I am tired as heck of everyone making fun of me just because I don’t know some obscure little Star Wars detail. There is no reason to be so mean Just thank whatever household gods you have that you didn’t post about Star TREK…those folks will eat you alive with a side of _gagh_ and an ice cold raktajino for not knowing Kirk’s nephew’s name. ---
**Author:** ![This\_Just\_In\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@This\_Just\_In\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/This_Just_In_2)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/71 "2010-05-05T20:26:55Z")
What, Kirk has a nep…ahhhhhhhhh ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/72 "2010-05-05T20:38:18Z")
> [@This\_Just\_In\_2](#): > > What, Kirk has a nep..ahhhhhhhhh Actually, yes…[his name was Peter](http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Peter_Kirk). ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/73 "2010-05-05T20:44:04Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Actually, yes…[his name was Peter](http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Peter_Kirk). From now on I’m going to ask every single Trek fan I meet “What was the name of James T Kirk’s nephew?” and when they fail to answer it I’ll shout about what a Star Trek noob they are for not knowing the answer to such an easy question. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/74 "2010-05-05T21:54:09Z")
I’ll always argue that ROTJ went off the rails due to it’s involvement with Jim Henson. Jim Henson’s involvement should have begun and ended with Yoda period. Yoda was a unique character in the Star Wars universe being a puppet and one could even overlook that he had the same voice as Grover and Fozzie Bear. However bringing in Henson for the third installment just destroyed any credibility. Compare the original cantina scene to those from Jabba’s palace. The cantina felt like a “hive of scum and villany”. Then look at the cast of characters from Jabba’s place. Goofy gamorrean guards who trip over eachother, a big blue cuddley keyboard player, Salicious Crumb the rat side kick who laughs like a muppet, etc. The whole place felt silly. By the time we get to the end of the film we have three sets we bounce between. Luke & Vader confrontation, Lando’s attack on the Death Star, and the Ewok ground attack. I’ve never hear a complaint about the Luke/Vader stuff nor the Lando space action. All criticisms stem from those wonderful muppet Ewoks. I just wonder what Rick Baker would have come up with had he been asked to create the indigenous tribe of Endor’s moon. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/75 "2010-05-05T22:17:32Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I was 12 when I saw TESB so yes my sensibilites were quite different back then. Plus, there really was no template for a trilogy that I recall. There were Satruday serials in the 50’s, but not in the late 70’s. Back then sequels were basically James Bond, in which each movie was its own entity. Sp in a fashion this was uncharted territory for a lot of us youngsters. True, and TV shows back then didn’t have cliffhangers except during rare two episode shows where you only had to wait a week. However when Star Wars was re-released as ANH just before ESB came out it was labeled as Episode IV, and I assume just about anyone too young to see SW when it first appeared saw it on rerelease so you’d have some clue as to what was going on. I was too young to see the serials in movies, but they had plenty of them on TV from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/76 "2010-05-05T22:18:35Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Dude, _you didn’t know the name of Slave I_. Next you’re gonna tell us you don’t know what color underwear Wedge Antilles’ older brother Richard Antilles wears. When his fighter got hit by an Imperial Fighter - brown. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![This\_Just\_In\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@This\_Just\_In\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/This_Just_In_2)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/77 "2010-05-05T22:41:45Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Dude, _you didn’t know the name of Slave I_. Next you’re gonna tell us you don’t know what color underwear Wedge Antilles’ older brother Richard Antilles wears. This is a trick question. Every Star Wars fan should know our cosmic heroes wear no underwear. From [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Underwear](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Underwear) In an interview in London 2008, Carrie Fisher revealed that during the filming of A New Hope in 1977, director George Lucas had made her cover her breasts with Gaffer Tape. She has been quoted saying;“I had to tape them down, because there’s no underwear in space. George knows that for a fact.” ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/78 "2010-05-05T22:51:02Z")
> [@This\_Just\_In\_2](#): > > This is a trick question. Every Star Wars fan should know our cosmic heroes wear no underwear. > > From [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Underwear](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Underwear) > In an interview in London 2008, Carrie Fisher revealed that during the filming of A New Hope in 1977, director George Lucas had made her cover her breasts with Gaffer Tape. She has been quoted saying;“I had to tape them down, because there’s no underwear in space. George knows that for a fact.” I heard that was to reduce the curves and make Leia seem more pure. I think that’s quite a ways away from Amidala’s pointy nipples showing in the prequels. Not that I’m complaining. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/79 "2010-05-05T22:55:08Z")
> [@](#): > > I think that’s quite a ways away from Amidala’s pointy nipples showing in the prequels. Natalie Portman’s nipples never showed through, but the costumers did an excellent job of making it _look_ like they were, through clever placement of utilitarian seams. Thus, they get the best of both worlds: Those who want to see nipples will see them, and to those who profess to not want to see nipples, they can show that they weren’t visible, and that it was merely an illusion produced by the seams. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257/80 "2010-05-05T23:44:41Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > All criticisms stem from those wonderful muppet Ewoks. Too bad we didn’t get a _Venture Bros_-esque cut scene after the credits. (The next morning, as the Ewok camp awakens) Han Solo: Come on, we have to get out of here. That shit’s coming down hard. This moon will be dead by nightfall. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-my-friends-like-empire-strikes-back-the-best-but-i-like-return-of-the-jedi/538257.md?page=5)