# All religious people should be executed

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 12, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863 "2010-06-12T00:15:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/141 "2010-06-13T04:57:08Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> I live in the real world, where religious people demonstrate basic common sense while most atheists can be depended on to do stuff that’s completely nuts on a regular basis. Like starting this thread, for instance.

You’re the one who believes an invisible, all powerful, father figure who loves you, with no evidence whatsoever.

Atheists aren’t necessarily rational. Theists \*are \*necessarily irrational. Try to keep that in mind when you post your next bullshit Dawkins thread. 😃

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/142 "2010-06-13T05:02:08Z")

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Where do you dudes get the discount bulk prices on the Purina Troll Chow?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/143 "2010-06-13T05:08:23Z")

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> [@Autolycus](#):
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> Not sure what you meant by runner-up.

Well, as in he’s not really a champion…  
After his last post, I guess I can confidently disregard anything he says, on any topic. It’ll save a little bit of time.

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**Author:** ![lurking\_guest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/2acd7d/32.png) [@lurking\_guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurking_guest)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/144 "2010-06-13T05:36:00Z")

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Oh, for goodness sake! Who cares what Der Trihs or Polycarp believes?

They are each PASSIONATE and EBULIENT about what they believe. Do YOU care?  
P  
Neither “Religion” nor “Atheism” has anything WHATEVER to do with a single individual’s relationship with …the Ephemeral, Individual, Close-Held, connection to THEIR INDIVIDUAL fears, hopes, dreams, beliefs, backgrounds…Just what they each want to SHOUT at others.

Poor sods.

They strive to negate one another.

And lose.

You cannot combat individual experience with Science or an Appeal to Intelligence or ‘proofs’ that convince no one at all.

GOD is **real** to billions of folks on this planet.

The “First Cause.”

Science acknowledges it. And now there is an effening almighty war over what this ‘First Cause’ is.

In my opinion - ‘THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ‘A GOD’ OR ‘GODS’ AND ANYONE WHO STILL BELIEVES IN THEM IS AN ANTI-INTELLECTUAL DOUCHE WHO HASEN’T BRAINS ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THIS’…to, "WE HAVE OUR OWN, INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCES OF GOD AND KNOW THEM TO BE TRUE!!!

Der Trihs, you fight this.  
You blame it all on hallucination and childhood instillation of propaganda and lesser “intelligence” …and you are WRONG.

There is a ‘knowledge of God’ that you are unaware of.  
That you, in fact, REVEL in being unaware of.

There is perhaps, maybe, outside of the realm of YOUR understanding or experience, folks who have encountered and know to be _true_ things you have never dreamed of.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/145 "2010-06-13T05:44:17Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Oh, for goodness sake! Who cares what Der Trihs or Polycarp believes?
> 
> They are each PASSIONATE and EBULIENT about what they believe. Do YOU care?  
> P  
> Neither “Religion” nor “Atheism” has anything WHATEVER to do with a single individual’s relationship with …the Ephemeral, Individual, Close-Held, connection to THEIR INDIVIDUAL fears, hopes, dreams, beliefs, backgrounds…Just what they each want to SHOUT at others.
> 
> Poor sods.
> 
> They strive to negate one another.
> 
> And lose.
> 
> You cannot combat individual experience with Science or an Appeal to Intelligence or ‘proofs’ that convince no one at all.
> 
> GOD is **real** to billions of folks on this planet.
> 
> The “First Cause.”
> 
> Science acknowledges it. And now there is an effening almighty war over what this ‘First Cause’ is.
> 
> In my opinion - ‘THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ‘A GOD’ OR ‘GODS’ AND ANYONE WHO STILL BELIEVES IN THEM IS AN ANTI-INTELLECTUAL DOUCHE WHO HASEN’T BRAINS ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THIS’…to, "WE HAVE OUR OWN, INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCES OF GOD AND KNOW THEM TO BE TRUE!!!
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> Der Trihs, you fight this.  
> You blame it all on hallucination and childhood instillation of propaganda and lesser “intelligence” …and you are WRONG.
> 
> There is a ‘knowledge of God’ that you are unaware of.  
> That you, in fact, REVEL in being unaware of.
> 
> There is perhaps, maybe, outside of the realm of YOUR understanding or experience, folks who have encountered and know to be _true_ things you have never dreamed of.

You should close your tags with a forward slash. Unless you want to look silly.

Also, you seem to believe in childish fairy tales. How sad.

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/146 "2010-06-13T05:47:17Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> You’re the one who believes an invisible, all powerful, father figure who loves you, with no evidence whatsoever.

I’ve read ~20 books of evidence for the existence of God, and thousands more are out there. And of course the best evidence is not found in books.

> [@](#):
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> Atheists aren’t necessarily rational. Theists \*are \*necessarily irrational. Try to keep that in mind when you post your next bullshit Dawkins thread. 😃

Say it all you want, but anyone who pays attention to intellectual discourse knows that atheists achieve peaks of craziness that no one else can possibly approach. If someone says to you that all women have penis envy, or that 1-year-olds are mentally equal to adults, or that cause-effect reasoning is a tool used by society to oppress individuals, you know that you’re talking to an atheist, because no one else could be nutty enough to believe such things. Only atheists, who are by definition severed from a large part of reality, could take such ideas seriously.

(For the record, those three examples come from Freud, Firestone, and Foucault.)

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/147 "2010-06-13T05:51:40Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> I’ve read ~20 books of evidence for the existence of God, and thousands more are out there. And of course the best evidence is not found in books.

There is no evidence in the books you’ve read. You are a gullible, stupid sheep that is being told what you want to hear. Sorry.

> [@](#):
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> Say it all you want, but anyone who pays attention to intellectual discourse knows that atheists achieve peaks of craziness that no one else can possibly approach. If someone says to you that all women have penis envy, or that 1-year-olds are mentally equal to adults, or that cause-effect reasoning is a tool used by society to oppress individuals, you know that you’re talking to an atheist, because no one else could be nutty enough to believe such things. Only atheists, who are by definition severed from a large part of reality, could take such ideas seriously.
> 
> (For the record, those three examples come from Freud, Firestone, and Foucault.)

There is no evidence for your God. None. You believe in him as an act of desperate, childish stupidity. You want to live forever. You want to see your dead loved ones again. You are accepting the irrational idea of God because it comforts you. Good for you, but you aren’t by any stretch of the imagination choosing it rationally.

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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/148 "2010-06-13T05:57:31Z")

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> [@SoulFrost](#):
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> Yeah, I know. Why bother with discussion, debate, and pitting on a message board?

Frankly, I don’t see the difference between mutant’s thread and “Hey, lets kill all the n–gers.” I see no reason to engage in a dialog with someone that deranged. He should be banned.

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**Author:** ![lurking\_guest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/2acd7d/32.png) [@lurking\_guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurking_guest)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/149 "2010-06-13T06:00:12Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> You should close your tags with a forward slash. Unless you want to look silly.
> 
> Also, you seem to believe in childish fairy tales. How sad.

LOBOHAN… {{my friend}} You speak of “…childish fairy tales…” any yet you promote them.

\\\ Are they enough “…forward slash(es)…” for you?

Rot today or tomorrow or a few years from now…what difference does it make?

You are just material ‘stuff’ with no significance at all…in the long term.

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/150 "2010-06-13T06:02:37Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> There is no evidence in the books you’ve read.

How can you know that when you don’t know what books they are?

> [@](#):
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> You are a gullible, stupid sheep that is being told what you want to hear.

Wow, your brilliant idea of declaring that you’re right based only on the fact that you can call everyone who disagree with you stupid is just … brilliant. I wonder why no one ever came up with that idea before. Now that you’ve unleashed this stunning, genius strategy, the entire field of logical argumentation will be revolutionized forever. Your name will live forever as generations of students wonder how you developed the intellectual acumen to come up with such a wonderful piece of rhetoric.

Or maybe not.

> [@](#):
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> There is no evidence for your God. None. You believe in him as an act of desperate, childish stupidity. You want to live forever. You want to see your dead loved ones again. You are accepting the irrational idea of God because it comforts you. Good for you, but you aren’t by any stretch of the imagination choosing it rationally.

Actually, neither eternal life nor reunion with dead relatives played any role in my conversion from atheism to Christianity. However, since your intellectual framework is apparently so fragile that you can only maintain it by clinging to fictions that you make up, go right ahead. It’s no skin off my teeth.

Good night, and God bless.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/151 "2010-06-13T06:07:09Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> LOBOHAN… {{my friend}} You speak of “…childish fairy tales…” any yet you promote them.
> 
> \\\ Are they enough “…forward slash(es)…” for you?
> 
> Rot today or tomorrow or a few years from now…what difference does it make?
> 
> You are just material ‘stuff’ with no significance at all…in the long term.

Those are backslashes. 😃

If we are material and this is the only life, of course you want it to be as long as possible. It’s amazing how stupid some theists are.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/152 "2010-06-13T06:18:09Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> How can you know that when you don’t know what books they are?

Because there’s never been any evidence for God for anyone to write down in a book in the first place. We know that you have no evidence for God for the same reason we know you have no evidence for Zeus or Sauron; they are fictional, physically impossible characters.

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**Author:** ![Lunchy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Lunchy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lunchy)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/153 "2010-06-13T06:22:01Z")

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People still believe in ‘God’? Is this 1600’s? Is all common sense gone? Am I asking too many questions?

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/154 "2010-06-13T06:22:02Z")

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> [@Telcontar](#):
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> Frankly, I don’t see the difference between mutant’s thread and “Hey, lets kill all the n–gers.” I see no reason to engage in a dialog with someone that deranged. He should be banned.

I think that he eventually should be, too, on that basis, as well as on the basis of the ATMB thread showcasing the disingenuous handwaving of someone who was once an interesting poster but who has become a one-trick pony.

For now though, he still has some entertainment value.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/155 "2010-06-13T06:26:07Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> How can you know that when you don’t know what books they are?

Because, if there were a book that provided actual evidence for the existence of God, it would be pretty big news.

> [@](#):
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> Wow, your brilliant idea of declaring that you’re right based only on the fact that you can call everyone who disagree with you stupid is just … brilliant. I wonder why no one ever came up with that idea before. Now that you’ve unleashed this stunning, genius strategy, the entire field of logical argumentation will be revolutionized forever. Your name will live forever as generations of students wonder how you developed the intellectual acumen to come up with such a wonderful piece of rhetoric.

I’m not saying I’m particularly smart. I’m saying you’re childishly irrational.

> [@](#):
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> Actually, neither eternal life nor reunion with dead relatives played any role in my conversion from atheism to Christianity. However, since your intellectual framework is apparently so fragile that you can only maintain it by clinging to fictions that you make up, go right ahead. It’s no skin off my teeth.

There is no evidence, so why else do you believe? Why don’t you believe in Santa? Why not Vampires? Do you believe in Unicorns? How about Zombies?

Each of those things has just as much evidence as your pathetic father figure in the sky.

> [@](#):
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> Good night, and God bless.

Live long and prosper.

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**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/156 "2010-06-13T06:26:40Z")

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> [@SoulFrost](#):
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> I think that he eventually should be, too, on that basis, as well as on the basis of the ATMB thread showcasing the disingenuous handwaving of someone who was once an interesting poster but who has become a one-trick pony.
> 
> For now though, he still has some entertainment value.

They wont ban him.

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**Author:** ![lurking\_guest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/2acd7d/32.png) [@lurking\_guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurking_guest)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/157 "2010-06-13T06:29:32Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Because there’s never been any evidence for God for anyone to write down in a book in the first place. We know that you have no evidence for God for the same reason we know you have no evidence for Zeus or Sauron; they are fictional, physically impossible characters.

Neener, neener, neeener…“…you have no evidence for Zeus…” so, therefore, you have no evidence for ANY reason that any of the billions of folks who BELIEVE should trust themselves.

Devastating logic.

Polycarp! How many folks are praying for Der Trihs? -AND all others like him - (Don’t hang back there in the background!)

STAND UP NOW, Polycarp. (The guy with so much gravitas on “The Dope.”)

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**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/158 "2010-06-13T06:32:03Z")

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You lose all credibility with the neener neener.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/159 "2010-06-13T06:34:03Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Neener, neener, neeener…“…you have no evidence for Zeus…” so, therefore, you have no evidence for ANY reason that any of the billions of folks who BELIEVE should trust themselves.

I don’t think anyone believes in Zeus anymore. Are you an idiot?

Don’t answer that. In any case, religious people believe something factual (that there is a God) with no evidence at all to support it. Do you believe in a country called New Gunterston? There is no evidence for that either.

> [@](#):
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> Devastating logic.

Thank you.

Maybe you should go back to lurking you fucking simpleton.

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-religious-people-should-be-executed/542863/160 "2010-06-13T06:35:21Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Neener, neener, neeener…“…you have no evidence for Zeus…” so, therefore, you have no evidence for ANY reason that any of the billions of folks who BELIEVE should trust themselves.
> 
> Devastating logic.
> 
> Polycarp! How many folks are praying for Der Trihs? -AND all others like him - (Don’t hang back there in the background!)
> 
> STAND UP NOW, Polycarp. (The guy with so much gravitas on “The Dope.”)

Dude! Whose dick’s up your ass tonight?

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