# "All right, I'm going to say it...I actually LIKED..." **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 20, 2011, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546 "2011-05-20T06:32:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/161 "2011-05-22T00:18:30Z")
> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#): > > You’re dead to me. > DEAD. > 13 was an apology for the abortion that was 12. Do you hear me! Wondered if that’d kill me to someone…12 was just so much more FUN than the other two. 11 and 13 took themselves so seriously to premises that are so wildly unbelievable. 12 took it to such a level that it was much for fun to watch. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/162 "2011-05-22T01:38:01Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Spiderman 2 was the best of the three by far Actually, a lot of people (myself included) would agree with you on that. I always assumed that 3 was considered the worst of the bunch. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/163 "2011-05-22T02:09:32Z")
Commando is one the best action films of all time, and I dare anyone to say otherwise. How can a movie that contains the following exchange be anything but classic? > [@](#): > > Ah-nuld as John Matrix holding a bad guy over a cliff:Remember, Sully, when I promised to kill you last? > Sully: That’s right, Matrix! You did! > Matrix: I lied. > [Matrix releases Sully, who falls to his demise] With this as the kicker: > [@](#): > > Cindy: What happened to Sully? > Matrix: I let him go. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/164 "2011-05-22T05:59:17Z")
What? I didn’t know it was uncool if you liked _ **Tommyknockers!** _ One of his better scifi ideas. (although, I prefer his scifi short stories, _ **The Jaunt, The Langoliers** _ and does _ **The Mist** _ count?) _ **Lost in Space** _ 1998 remake. But _ **Tremors** _ is a pinnacle of film making, and I challenge naysayers to a duel. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/165 "2011-05-22T16:24:17Z")
> [@Lacunae\_Matata](#): > > Okay, that might deserve mockery. Go easier on the peyote. > > Otherwise? Yeah, most of those Nick and Disney tween shows are somewhere between pretty watchable and pretty darned good. I especially like iCarly and Ned’s Declassified, but (I’m so ashamed) I watch Victorious mainly because that one brunette guy is so fascinatingly gorgeous. (Honestly, it’s not even a remotely sexual attraction. He’s just so pretty! I felt the same way about Apolo Anton Ono a few years ago during the winter Olympics.) > > I also love America’s Next Top Model, and my big macho redneck husband always gets sucked in when I watch an all day marathon. And disco. And Neil Diamond. > > Also, Hanson, Rick Springfield, Bay City Rollers, KISS, and AC/DC. And Vanilla Ice’s greatest hit. And I have a mad crush on Captain Sig Hansen from the TV series Deadliest Catch. 😛 Heh! Just read this, and I say, if men can watch tween shows to goggle at the underage female cuties, women can do the same (underage male cuties, unless you go the other way, of course). I blush to admit years ago I watched an anime cartoon with the kids because I had a very disturbing crush on one of the characters… ---
**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/166 "2011-05-22T21:30:28Z")
> [@MadTheSwine](#): > > Three pages of jibberish when all we needed are these four winning posts. I’m trying to figure out if you’re serious or if you’re expressing that you’re tired of people claiming to ‘win’ threads. If it’s the latter, I do want to mention that I don’t actually think my post was more worthy than anyone else’s, just that I’m pointing out the vast discrepancy between my opinion (We Built This City is pretty good) and the seeming majority opinion (it’s one of the top 10 worst songs of all time). Anyway, I thought of a couple more. **Iron Man 2**. I went to see it with a friend and had such a great time that I brought my parents and brother back to it just a few days later for a family outing. None of them were at all impressed, and had to go back and watch the original to cleanse themselves. The original is definitely superior, but I thought 2 was a great summer movie, and Mickey Rourke’s character was so much fun, as was Scarlett Johansson’s. **Dani California**. Just as good as the Chili Peppers’ previous work in my opinion. I remembered this yesterday while playing it on Rock Band. Such an infectious rhythm and chord progression. Everyone else seems to think it was the moment RHCP well and truly sold out. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/167 "2011-05-22T21:32:20Z")
Idiocracy Big Trouble in Little China Road Warriors ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/168 "2011-05-22T22:22:23Z")
It’s funny how, in these sorts of threads, the appearance of _Hudson Hawk_ is an inevitability. Does anyone really hate it? (I mean apart from hating Andie MacDowell; hatred is a natural result of any movie appearance by her\*.) It’s a goofy movie that doesn’t pretend to be otherwise. Maybe it’s not your cup of tea but it’s not the worst movie ever made, and it has a certain cheap and cheerful charm to it. \*I hereby dare anyone to chime in and honestly say they love Andie MacDowell’s acting. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/169 "2011-05-22T22:26:54Z")
I thought _Hudson Hawk_ was pretty awful. I like Andie MacDowell. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/170 "2011-05-22T22:32:50Z")
Maybe I’m just more honest than other people, or perhaps I genuinely have no taste, but here goes: I liked the **Star Wars Holiday Special**. (It’s fun trying to decide how many drugs Carrie is on during her scenes.) I also liked the duo of movies with the ewoks and the chipper little blonde kid. **Caravan of Courage** and the **Battle for Endor**. I liked \*both \*of the \*\*Jurassic Park \*\*sequels. Here’s the biggie: I absolutely LOVE **Logan’s Run**. I don’t care what anyone says, it’s an amazing movie and I love it to death. I even watched the (understandably) short-lived TV series based on it, and I have to say I enjoyed that too. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/171 "2011-05-22T22:41:31Z")
Short Circuit 1 and 2 are awesome. How can anyone hate on Johnny 5? ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/172 "2011-05-22T22:42:20Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Idiocracy > Big Trouble in Little China Lots and LOTS of people adore these, me included… Joe ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/173 "2011-05-22T22:55:40Z")
The most I’ve got to contribute is that I liked the Toxic Avenger movies. I only got to three, though. Seconding: Big Trouble in Little China Logan’s Run (and the '70’s TV series) Voyager Hudson Hawk As an aside: I liked and am still totally all about KISS. \m/ Their albums are mostly so-so with one or two hits on each, but their live shows really deliver. Gene Simmons didn’t just create a band. He had a business plan. He’s been quoted as saying that he didn’t want KISS to become the next Beatles, he wanted KISS to become the next coca-cola. And he’s done quite a good job so far, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/174 "2011-05-22T23:35:02Z")
There are three other people here who liked _The DaVinci Code_? That’s two more than I remember last time this sort of thread came up. (I also like _Angels and Demons_, though I was meh about his other two). I like Christopher Paolini’s Eragon books. I think the dogpiling on certain websites (I’m looking at you, TvTropes) goes way overboard. Yes, they’ve got their faults. They’ve got their fun, too. To round it off… I still don’t get why people hate Celine Dion. Someone in another thread said something about cheesy lyrics- as opposed to the deep and original poetry of most pop stars, I guess. (The previous thread also said something about everybody hating _Cats_, but I still don’t believe that. No one I talked to IRL had ever heard anything like that). ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/175 "2011-05-22T23:54:25Z")
90% of the things being named aren’t widely hated at all and many of them are widely-loved. ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/176 "2011-05-23T00:13:30Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Wondered if that’d kill me to someone…12 was just so much more FUN than the other two. 11 and 13 took themselves so seriously to premises that are so wildly unbelievable. 12 took it to such a level that it was much for fun to watch. Alright, I realize we’re talking opinions here, but… I had to read your first mention of Oceans Twelve being the best of the three a few times to make sure I was reading it correctly. And now this! 😃 If you think Ocean’s 11 took itself too seriously, I’d suggest re-watching it. One of things I like most about Oceans 11 (and I like a lot about it) is how NOT seriously it took itself. Admittedly, I’m a huge fan of Ocean’s 11. I used to call it my guilty pleasure, but screw that, it’s a great film. The sequels, not so much. Nor the original. As far as my contributions to the thread… I’ll be yet another person to mention _Joe Vs. The Volcano_. Love that film. Oh, and, my big one that makes me hang my head in shame… _She’s All That_. I know it’s incredibly trite, cliched, and by-the-numbers. But I still find something about it charming and fun. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/177 "2011-05-23T00:38:57Z")
> [@Anamorphic](#): > > Alright, I realize we’re talking opinions here, but… I had to read your first mention of Oceans Twelve being the best of the three a few times to make sure I was reading it correctly. And now this! 😃 If you think Ocean’s 11 took itself too seriously, I’d suggest re-watching it. One of things I like most about Oceans 11 (and I like a lot about it) is how NOT seriously it took itself. > > Admittedly, I’m a huge fan of Ocean’s 11. I used to call it my guilty pleasure, but screw that, it’s a great film. The sequels, not so much. Nor the original. > > As far as my contributions to the thread… I’ll be yet another person to mention _Joe Vs. The Volcano_. Love that film. > > Oh, and, my big one that makes me hang my head in shame… _She’s All That_. I know it’s incredibly trite, cliched, and by-the-numbers. But I still find something about it charming and fun. As a lifelong (well…since it came out) lover of 12 over 11 I have been forced to re-see 11 by every single person who cannot believe that I do actually like 12 more. So I have seen 11 many times and still hold true that twelve is better. I know for a solid fact that I am the only person in existence who thinks so but I will stand by my laurels and say that I enjoyed that movie so much better. The twists were more twisty, the plot was so unbelievable in the things they did that I didn’t get the impression that they actually thought this could happen. Plus I liked the music better…which always helped ETA: Don’t even get my started on 13…that was just an excuse to make another movie. ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/178 "2011-05-23T00:43:07Z")
_Batman & Robin_. It completely succeeds at what it set out to be, it just isn’t what a lot of people wanted from a Batman movie. It’s basically a sequel to the 60’s TV show, and it’s really a very well done high-camp movie. I like it a lot more than _Batman Begins_. ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/179 "2011-05-23T01:26:14Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > As a lifelong (well…since it came out) lover of 12 over 11 I have been forced to re-see 11 by every single person who cannot believe that I do actually like 12 more. So I have seen 11 many times and still hold true that twelve is better. I know for a solid fact that I am the only person in existence who thinks so but I will stand by my laurels and say that I enjoyed that movie so much better. The twists were more twisty, the plot was so unbelievable in the things they did that I didn’t get the impression that they actually thought this could happen. Plus I liked the music better…which always helped > > ETA: Don’t even get my started on 13…that was just an excuse to make another movie. Well, we agree on 13 (although, I did think it was a touch better than 12, but not by much). But the rest, we will have to agree to disagree! ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546/180 "2011-05-23T01:34:58Z")
Another vote for _Hudson Hawk._ Kesha’s music. I really liked “TiK ToK” but didn’t think she was that big a deal, but then “Take It Off” came out last fall and I’ve been obsessed with her music ever since. It was a big disappointment when I couldn’t see her appearance in Chicago in February, but luckily she’s returning in August! I got my tickets already. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-im-going-to-say-it-i-actually-liked/582546.md?page=10)