# All right, Treis, have at me. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2001, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016 "2001-11-07T16:20:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![freshmeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@freshmeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freshmeat)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/21 "2001-11-09T01:23:17Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by TubaDiva_ > If you got a problem with someone on this board, DON’T air it here, even by > reference. Take your trash out. ALL of it. > > Take it to email, write a letter to the editor, rent a concert hall and sing > about it. Just don’t do it here, especially in backhanded fashion. Need I say more? FM ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/22 "2001-11-09T01:34:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by freshmeat \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by TubaDiva_ > > If you got a problem with someone on this board, DON’T air it here, even by > > reference. Take your trash out. ALL of it. > > > > Take it to email, write a letter to the editor, rent a concert hall and sing > > about it. Just don’t do it here, especially in backhanded fashion. > > Need I say more? > > FM \*\* **freshmeat** - you posted the exact same post [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=97629&pagenumber=2). IANAMod, but I’m pretty sure that sort of thing is not looked upon very favorably. ---
**Author:** ![freshmeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@freshmeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freshmeat)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/23 "2001-11-09T02:02:04Z")
Crunchy, I think you’re right on this one. A momentary lapse of reason - no harm meant. If a mod would be so kind as to remove my response from this thread, it would be greatly appreciated. To those affected, a humble apology. FM ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/24 "2001-11-09T02:09:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by freshmeat \* > **Crunchy, I think you’re right on this one. A momentary lapse of reason - no harm meant.** As long as it wasn’t a wide-spread spamming job, I don’t think you’ll get in trouble for it. I was just trying to let you know before you went posting the same thing in _all_ the Pit threads about other posters. (And Lord knows, that would be a lot) ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/25 "2001-11-09T02:15:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > \*\*man, I can’t believe there are still people around who talk like that. > > [sub][Bloom County] > Long live the glorious cockroach revolution against the bourgeois homeowner fascist swine-pig! > [/BC][/sub] \*\* Sorry, not that current. It was something like 25 years ago that it was said. But you **can’t** forget a woozie like that ! [sub]It could also works on the Mods when we’re not sure of their political affiliation ! :D[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/26 "2001-11-09T03:39:21Z")
With all due respect to **Hamlet** , and none whatsoever to **treis** , I have to back **Sua** on this one. Sometimes, a little personal criticism in GD is a good thing. **december** has been unusually irrational in the last couple weeks. Yes, **Sua** was snotty, but it was well-deserved snottiness that will hopefully lead to a little reflection and self-awareness on the part of the listener. And _that_, fellow debaters, is a good thing for all of us every once in a while. The injunction is on being a jerk, not being occasionally disdainful. [sub]I swear by all that is holy and sacred about the law that one day I will file a Rule 12(b)(6) Motion to Fuggedaboudit.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/27 "2001-11-09T03:46:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > well-deserved snottiness that will hopefully lead to a little reflection and self-awareness on the part of the listener. This very rarely happens. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/28 "2001-11-09T03:51:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > [sub]I swear by all that is holy and sacred about the law that one day I will file a Rule 12(b)(6) Motion to Fuggedaboudit.[/sub] Really really nitpicky: shouldn’t that be a 12(b)(8) motion or something - after all, 6 is already taken, as are 1-5 and 7… - Rick, whose sense of humor withered away after Civil Procedure 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/29 "2001-11-09T04:03:35Z")
Judge: Well, Mr. Sponte, after hearing the evidence and arguments concerning you motion I have but one comment: I gotchass fuggedabotit rights here, ya stinkin mamaluke! MOTION DENIED ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/30 "2001-11-09T15:22:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > [sub]I swear by all that is holy and sacred about the law that one day I will file a Rule 12(b)(6) Motion to Fuggedaboudit.[/sub] \*\* False oath!! False oath!! You know very well there is absolutely nothing holy and sacred about the law! Though you could get away with it, didn’t you? Yep, **IzzyR** I have proudly joined Geraldo Rivera as a graduate of Brooklyn Law School. Sua ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/31 "2001-11-09T15:34:12Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by detop \* > **Collounsbury** is a crypto-fascist anarcho-trotskyist_ ! So does this mean that I am not even a real Trotskyite but rather a mere ‘trotsky’ like poseur? Else, I wish to add that I support minty green’s notation that > [@](#): > > well-deserved snottiness that will hopefully lead to a little reflection and self-awareness on the part of the listener. If only to bring home to the idjit in question that he is in fact not even rising to the bare minimium of debate. Otherwise, Sua man, stand up for Brooklyn Law man. Some of the best lawyers I’ve ever had to deal with professionally came from there. (I actually mean that.) Much better to deal with than say the Columbia Law folks etc. Speaking as a client. (or rather agent thereof.) ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/32 "2001-11-09T15:43:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Much better to deal with than say the Columbia Law folks etc Hmm…as a Columbia graduate I might just have to… Agree. 😉 Most CL grads I have dealt with in my profession have rubbed me quite the wrong way. But they still aren’t as bad as those who carry the Cardozo Chip on their shoulders. Man, Cardozo people are _insufferable_. MR ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/33 "2001-11-09T15:51:38Z")
Lawyers! _ **Lawyers!** _ And I thought I was in genteel company: drug addicts, political radicals, pornographers, assassins, homosexuals, the right _sort_ of people, don’t you know. Note to **Coll** It’s Trotsky_ist_, not Trotsky_ite_. This was covered in the _Playboy Advisor_, Dec. '99, I’m surprised you missed it. Must have been distracted by the Armani ads. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/34 "2001-11-09T15:54:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Collounsbury \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by detop \* > > **Collounsbury** is a crypto-fascist anarcho-trotskyist_ ! > > So does this mean that I am not even a real Trotskyite but rather a mere ‘trotsky’ like poseur?\*\* Hey, you’re the one that wanted that captured all the contradictions 😉 But seriously, when I asked one of them to explain to me what it meant, my eyes glazed over after about an hour of dogmatic gobbledygook and I came to the conclusion that it’s a typical maoist Newspeak expression (use all the negative\* buzzwords you can think of, so that you’ll never be wrong). [sub]\* negative for a maoist, that is[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/35 "2001-11-09T15:57:59Z")
> [@](#): > > …that wanted **something** that… Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/36 "2001-11-09T15:58:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SuaSponte \* > Yep, **IzzyR** I have proudly joined Geraldo Rivera as a graduate of Brooklyn Law School. Forget Geraldo Rivera. My younger brother is presently enrolled there. When he graduates and makes his mark on the world, then you’ll _really_ have something to be proud of. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/37 "2001-11-09T16:20:48Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by elucidator \* > Note to **Coll** It’s Trotsky_ist\*, not Trotsky_ite_. This was covered in the _Playboy Advisor_, Dec. '99, I’m surprised you missed it. Must have been distracted by the Armani ads. Now you know very well that where I’ve been working we don’t (easily) get that sort of thing. Besides, I’ve always prefered European publications when abroad. Aside: Now Maeglin I don’t mean to bust specifically on Columbia Law but on the other hand the newly minted ones were some of the most insufferable know-nothings I had to deal with. (On the other hand I’m sure that they appreciated my constant “I dunno, wasn’t here then” “I don’t recall, hell I don’t recall what I did last week” and “I have no idea where such records would be kept” responses. All largely contrived to stay the hell away from the stinking morass that was litigation. Of course I really do have the memory and attention span of a small central park squirrel) ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/38 "2001-11-09T16:37:47Z")
No offense taken. I went there undergrad, not law school. I just work in the legal industry now and an ashamed at the way some of the young 'uns behave. I particularly relish it when Columbia (or Yale, Penn, whatever) first year associates, who are perhaps eighteen months older than me, try to push me around. They usually change their tune when either I don’t bother to do their work or they find out that I went to a better undergrad school than they did. After a quick and violent conflict, we usually get along just peachy. Paralegals wield all the power in big law firms. MR ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/39 "2001-11-09T18:08:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Maeglin \* > I particularly relish it when Columbia (or Yale, Penn, whatever) first year associates, who are perhaps eighteen months older than me, try to push me around. Afore I went to law school, I worked as a paralegal for a non-profit legal services corporation in Philly. My job was not the usual paralegal cite-checking and document management gig (which I would have sucked at), but instead I represented clients in Social Security and welfare disputes and hearings. Every summer, we would get a few law students from Penn who came as volunteers. They didn’t try to push me around - I worked pretty much independently - but they definitely had a snobbish air. I used to relish, a few weeks into the summer, the inevitable timid knock on my office door: “Sua, could you explain to me [this or that point of Social Security or welfare law].” “Certainly, my child. Come on in.” 😃 Sua ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016/40 "2001-11-09T18:15:12Z")
**IzzyR** , what year? If he’s going to be looking for a summer associate gig or a job, have him drop me a line. An interest in litigation would definitely help - my firm loves the training litigators get at BLS. Two caveats: Our current hiring cycle is wrapping up, so I wouldn’t be able to help him until next year. Also, I have enough clout to get him in here only if he has good grades. **Maeglin** , I hate to disabuse you, but **summer associates** wield all the power in big law firms. Sua [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-right-treis-have-at-me/92016.md?page=3)