# All the cool kids hate...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 21, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013 "2009-09-21T22:41:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/41 "2009-09-22T13:24:19Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> The movie “Crash” seems to get a lot of hate on these boards. Personally, I didn’t think it was that bad, at least not so bad that I feel the need to bring it up anytime there’s a thread about movies that suck.

There was nothing bad about **Crash** , other than the fact that it pissed off people who thought **Brokeback Mountain** was better.

In any case, I don’t care what the cool kids like or dislike. I form my own opinions from my own experience – which is that popularity and quality are independent variables.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/42 "2009-09-22T13:30:55Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Just because the cool kids hate Olive Garden, and you hate Olive Garden . . . doesn’t get you into the club. It only makes you a fat, suburban, 45 year old mother of two who hates Olive Garden.

Not even membership in the I Don’t Like Bland, Overpriced Food Club? Damn, talk about selective!

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**Author:** ![Terraplane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Terraplane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terraplane)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/43 "2009-09-22T13:40:20Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> The movie “Crash” seems to get a lot of hate on these boards. Personally, I didn’t think it was that bad, at least not so bad that I feel the need to bring it up anytime there’s a thread about movies that suck.

I don’t think Crash would be so hated if it hadn’t won Best Picture at the Academy Awards over Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, and Capote, which, and I think most cool kids would agree, were all much better movies.

I think Monsanto is still cool to hate, along with corporations in general, probably. I don’t know if it’s still cool to hate Walmart, so many people hate Walmart now that it might be passé for those on the cutting edge of cool.

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**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/44 "2009-09-22T13:45:07Z")

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> [@SHAKES](#):
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> How about the “Star Wars” prequils? Event tho’ you’ve seen them a hundred fucking times.

No, you fool – you’ve put the mockers on it, now. Within the week it’ll become obvious to all that only sad, middle-aged gonks are old enough to have been aware of Star Wars before the release of Episode I, and that Episodes IV to VI are boring and why doesn’t George Lucas re-edit them with cool CGI effects? And put Jar-Jar in?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/45 "2009-09-22T13:49:47Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> The movie “Crash” seems to get a lot of hate on these boards. Personally, I didn’t think it was that bad, at least not so bad that I feel the need to bring it up anytime there’s a thread about movies that suck.

I had (have) no earthly clue that it was “cool” to hate Crash - just the opposite has been my experience. All the “cool” people among my Facebook friends list in in their movie section. I didn’t hate it for any reasons related to popularity - I hated it because it was a ham-fisted cliche-fest that didn’t deserve any of the praise or awards it got. Had it been a movie-of-the-week on Lifetime I might’ve thought “huh, that was decent, I guess. Cheesy, but decent.” But Best Picture? No. I haven’t watched, looked up results, or given the slightest fuck about the Oscars since then.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/46 "2009-09-22T13:50:33Z")

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> [@SHAKES](#):
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> How about the “Star Wars” prequils?

Prequil: the before-you-get-sick sniffling, sneezing, aching, coughing, stuffy-head, fever, so-you-can-rest medicine.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/47 "2009-09-22T13:55:22Z")

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I hate _Crash_ because it made me refer to David Cronenberg’s _Crash_ exclusively as ‘David Cronenberg’s _Crash_’, usually to the merit of blank stares from everybody.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/48 "2009-09-22T14:16:20Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Not even membership in the I Don’t Like Bland, Overpriced Food Club? Damn, talk about selective!

Would you really want to join, if they would have you as a member?

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/49 "2009-09-22T14:26:05Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Oh, right. Yes, I will concur that watching TV on an actual, boring TV set (even worse: watching shows at the _actual time they are broadcast_) is totally uncool.

Funny, I thought watching a show on a tiny screen 4 inches across made a person look like a douchebag. Doubly so if they’re driving.

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**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/50 "2009-09-22T16:43:44Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> I hate lamp.

which part?

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/51 "2009-09-22T16:50:54Z")

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> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> Funny, I thought watching a show on a tiny screen 4 inches across made a person look like a douchebag. Doubly so if they’re driving.

Oh, yeah, I meant to put that in my previous post, but I forgot because I was merging into the turn lane at the time. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![BKReporter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@BKReporter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BKReporter)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/52 "2009-09-22T16:56:47Z")

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> [@omgzebras](#):
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> I don’t think Crash would be so hated if it hadn’t won Best Picture at the Academy Awards over Brokeback Mountain, Good Night and Good Luck, and Capote, which, and I think most cool kids would agree, were all much better movies.
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> I think Monsanto is still cool to hate, along with corporations in general, probably. I don’t know if it’s still cool to hate Walmart, so many people hate Walmart now that it might be passé for those on the cutting edge of cool.

Well, with the economy the way it is, I think a lot of Walmart-haters are either being forced to shop there or work there.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Gutgore\_Blooddrink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Captain\_Gutgore\_Blooddrink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Gutgore_Blooddrink)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/53 "2009-09-22T17:10:04Z")

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I like Starbucks because they’re open when I need to get to work and have serviceable drip coffee. I’d much rather wait for the snooty little coffee shop next door to open (they have much better drip) but I’m not cool enough to get to work late everyday for the cause. This is actually a battle with my inner hipster, because I’m cool enough to bus to work (being green is the new black?) but not cool enough to catch a later bus (stick it to the man!) and get chastised by my Operations Manager.

I like Olive Garden because when I’m with large amounts of my Mid Western family at the mall Xmas shopping (I’m uber hip for going to the mall because it’s so unhip that it’s fashionable) we don’t have to cart a bunch of kids and grandparents 45 minutes across town to a bitchin’ little hole in the wall where half of them won’t be able to find something they want and pay $20 apiece per vehicle for downtown parking. The food is not great, but I can survive easily on appetizers, bread sticks & salad with a couple of beers while everyone else is happily devouring their completely uncouth, unauthentic Italian wannabe trash (heathens!)

As far as U2 goes, I’m not sure if I’m hip or not. I really enjoy their early Sunday Bloody Sunday era music (it rocked) but am not a huge fan of their soft pop rock newer incarnation. Granted, I haven’t paid much attention to U2 since the Joshua Tree era, but the last song they did that I really enjoyed was New Years Day. I suppose that’s because it rocked (IMHO) while the rest of their recent music that I’ve known seems a little soft.

TV - I once had a co-worker who said her husband took their TV outside and shot it because it was evil. All I could think of is how expensive it is to haul electronics to the dump. Couldn’t you at least just put it out on the sidewalk with a free sign on it? Apparently, giving someone a free TV was akin to giving someone AIDS in their eyes.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/54 "2009-09-22T17:23:52Z")

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> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> I hate _Crash_ because it made me refer to David Cronenberg’s _Crash_ exclusively as ‘David Cronenberg’s _Crash_’, usually to the merit of blank stares from everybody.

This. I think the other major reason why cool people hate the 2005 Crash is that it used the same title as the 1996 Crash; the latter of which is undoubtedly a cult movie, based on a novel by a very serious dystopian author with a devoted following, and the former of which is just another ham-fisted, cliched morality tale with a big cast of Hollywood stars and a completely mainstream status. Cronenberg and Ballard were actually angry with Paul Haggis for using the same title. I mean, would it be THAT hard for them to have come up with a new title?

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**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/55 "2009-09-22T19:15:59Z")

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You.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/56 "2009-09-22T20:52:32Z")

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The cool kids hate Ben Affleck and love Casey Affleck.

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**Author:** ![C.Montgomery\_Burns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@C.Montgomery\_Burns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C.Montgomery_Burns)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/57 "2009-09-23T00:22:54Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> I hate lamp.

Do you really hate the lamp? Or are you just saying that because you saw it?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/58 "2009-09-23T00:38:39Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> I hate lamp.

Bummer, man. When it’s dark out, I lava lamp.

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**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/59 "2009-09-23T03:31:03Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> Prequil: the before-you-get-sick sniffling, sneezing, aching, coughing, stuffy-head, fever, so-you-can-rest medicine.

Well done! Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-cool-kids-hate/511013/60 "2009-09-23T09:30:45Z")

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> [@elmwood](#):
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> - It’s also important to know what the GOOD mega-chains are. Target, IKEA (European, so of course it’s more authentic and real than American chains), H&M (see IKEA), Trader Joe’s, **Whole Foods,** and Wegman’s to name a few.

Nope, Whole Foods is definitely uncool now. Right-wingers started shopping there solely because the CEO pissed off the liberals, not because they like the food. Even more than the CEO pissing off the liberals by being a douchebag, THAT’S what makes Whole Foods uncool.

I don’t watch TV, but I don’t care if that makes me cool or uncool. I have hundreds of videotapes and two Tivos full from back when I used to watch TV, so it’s not snobbery, it’s just…I don’t watch TV. No particular reason, and I realize there’s lots of great shows on, tons, but I just don’t. Well, one possible reason: if I started again I’d get obsessed again, and I’d rather be obsessed about movies and music.

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