# All the transgender/nonbinary/genderqueer/LGBTQIA+ stuff of today, is just the 2010s equivalent of..

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**Created:** [January 11, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-transgender-nonbinary-genderqueer-lgbtqia-stuff-of-today-is-just-the-2010s-equivalent-of/827565 "2019-01-11T02:21:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-transgender-nonbinary-genderqueer-lgbtqia-stuff-of-today-is-just-the-2010s-equivalent-of/827565/41 "2019-01-11T23:07:19Z")

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> [@uqekizig](#):
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> You all may laugh at me for my post claiming that transgenders/nonbinary/etc are just the 2010s equivalent of hippies.

Is it your belief that “transgenders/nonbinary/etc” did not exist prior to 2010?

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-transgender-nonbinary-genderqueer-lgbtqia-stuff-of-today-is-just-the-2010s-equivalent-of/827565/42 "2019-01-12T00:08:11Z")

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> [@uqekizig](#):
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> Just abandon this thread. I know the OP was screwed up

I don’t think you should ask for the post to be closed. I think you should ask more questions so that you get a better understanding both of what the 1960’s counterculture movement (and other movements of the 1960’s) was all about, and about LGBTQ people and their struggles. By being on this message board, you have a great opportunity to learn. Take advantage of it.

To quote Linda Ellerbee, “If you want to know, ask!”

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-transgender-nonbinary-genderqueer-lgbtqia-stuff-of-today-is-just-the-2010s-equivalent-of/827565/43 "2019-01-12T02:46:44Z")

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> [@uqekizig](#):
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> Then you scoff at my misunderstanding of history when I use the phrase “hippie counterculture of the 1960s”. without even taking time to point out the historical ignorance, so that you can remain smug and intellectually superior while you laugh at me. You would rather let ignorance persist so you can sit back and laugh at it,

Welcome to The Dope!

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**Author:** ![Postariti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Postariti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Postariti)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-transgender-nonbinary-genderqueer-lgbtqia-stuff-of-today-is-just-the-2010s-equivalent-of/827565/44 "2019-01-12T08:00:02Z")

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> [@uqekizig](#):
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> I feel nonbinary but I also feel that’s kind of dumb and cringy

No, it’s normal and fine. If you feel nonbinary you are normal and fine. If you are trans you are normal and fine.

> [@uqekizig](#):
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> I’m just trying to make arguments to convince myself the gender thing is a wacky cult I got drawn into, and that my parents are right.

You are going through a difficult time in your life. Your parents never went through this so they don’t understand it.

You are who you are. If you like, you could start another thread to discuss what you’re going through.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-transgender-nonbinary-genderqueer-lgbtqia-stuff-of-today-is-just-the-2010s-equivalent-of/827565/45 "2019-01-12T08:43:18Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> The main problem with your idea that being trans is just the latest generations way of being rebellious, is, of course, the thousands and thousands of trans people who are middle-aged or older.

My mom had a cousin who came out as trans, back in the mid-1950s. He spent the rest of his life as a man, but nobody understood any of it within his lifetime.

And I came out (as gay) in 1963… back when NOBODY was out. And throughout the 60s, I knew quite a few hippies, and it was just as difficult coming out to them as to anyone else. I’m 73 now, past middle-aged.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-transgender-nonbinary-genderqueer-lgbtqia-stuff-of-today-is-just-the-2010s-equivalent-of/827565/46 "2019-01-13T04:09:28Z")

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> [@uqekizig](#):
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> For two years I was a trans girl. Then forced to detransition because of family pressure. I feel nonbinary but I also feel that’s kind of dumb and cringy, I can picture my parents scoffing and cringing at it. I’m just trying to make arguments to convince myself the gender thing is a wacky cult I got drawn into, and that my parents are right. They were born in 1956 so they could be right.

Born in 1956, rarely right.

> [@Voyager](#):
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> Parental cluelessness about a child’s sexual identity is nothing new. Lenny Bruce had a bit about a mother’s inability to see a son’s obvious gayness back over 50 years ago.

> [@uqekizig](#):
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> Just abandon this thread. I know the OP was screwed up

Do NOT give up.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-the-transgender-nonbinary-genderqueer-lgbtqia-stuff-of-today-is-just-the-2010s-equivalent-of/827565/47 "2019-01-13T13:21:13Z")

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Regarding ROGD.

> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> It’s not a real medical condition. It’s the latest in pseudoscientific claptrap used as a cudgel against LGBT people.

Cf. [drapetomania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania).

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