# All these years after the sexual revolution.

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 12, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513 "2015-02-12T21:35:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![nkdb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a698b9/32.png) [@nkdb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nkdb)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/1 "2015-02-12T21:35:58Z")

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Why do you think it is that ALL of these years after the sexual revolution, men and some women too, still do not realize that it takes sustained attention to the woman’s clitorus (through stroking the clitorus, grinding or rubbing the vulva on the man’s pubis during intercourse, or a plethora of other means) for the majority of women to have orgasms. A woman who achieves orgasm (or multiples) during sex is a much happier and content woman who will want her man more often. I do not understand why in 2015 there are so many people who do not understand this simple fact so too many women never or seldom have orgasms.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/2 "2015-02-12T22:04:08Z")

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Because the sexual revolution did not come with an instruction manual.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/3 "2015-02-12T22:06:27Z")

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The revolution should be televised.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/4 "2015-02-12T22:21:00Z")

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Reminds me of that old joke…

Q: How do you make a woman come?

A: Who cares???

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/5 "2015-02-12T22:22:31Z")

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somebody should write a book.

it would sell like hot tamales.

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**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/6 "2015-02-12T22:27:15Z")

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Well, let’s start with this one: How many women have actually given their partners instructions on this issue?

And then we’ll finish with: How many women are faking their orgasms?

So… men are expected to “just know” and then we’re given false feedback to encourage incorrect habits?

(Answering these for my personal experiences: I did have my first girlfriend at least point out that I should pay more attention to the clit. Nothing more specific than that, though, so I have to assume she was happy with what I did afterwards. My wife has never even said the word clitoris, and I’m left assuming she’s also happy with what I’ve been doing.)

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/7 "2015-02-12T22:48:38Z")

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**Moderator Action**

Since the OP is seeking opinions, let’s move this to IMHO.

Moving thread from General Questions to In My Humble Opinion.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/8 "2015-02-13T02:48:24Z")

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I wonder how old you are / the OP is?

The Sexual Revolution was about two ideas: 1) It’s possible to have sex while not married. 2) It’s possible for women to think of sex as at least potentially enjoyable (whether or not they actually enjoyed it yet).

That’s as far as it went. And even that small distance was quite revolutionary when it happened. (I almost said “… when it came”, but that seems to be the nub (heh) of the OP’s lament. I kill me.)  
All the rest might be learned. Eventually. The problem is that each year brings a fresh crop of clueless 15 year olds into the game. They haven’t gotten whit one smarter since the 60s.

And the overall prudishness of American society is still far too high to actually, you know, teach kids how to do this. Baseball we can teach. Killing we can teach. Clit-blipping? EWWW!!! Jesus Hates You!!!

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**Author:** ![somepumpkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@somepumpkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/somepumpkin)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/9 "2015-02-13T04:31:26Z")

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Obligatory Monty python link

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqI-28meTZ8)

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/10 "2015-02-13T05:33:12Z")

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Here’s my observation:

It’s 2015, and a woman who has been with me for 15 years still doesn’t get that I not only do I not expect reciprocation for oral action, I don’t want it. I get satisfaction out of giving satisfaction. Why is that so GD hard for people to understand?

It’s Win-Win. The woman gets satisfaction, and I get off on the idea that I have the power to do that. (No they aren’t faking. Shut-up!) So if the difficulty is in understanding how I can be so self-less is the problem…Oh I’m not! I’m not being self-less at all. I get off on it.  
Sorry if that rant was TMI

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/11 "2015-02-13T05:49:09Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I wonder how old you are / the OP is?
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> The Sexual Revolution was about two ideas: 1) It’s possible to have sex while not married. 2) It’s possible for women to think of sex as at least potentially enjoyable (whether or not they actually enjoyed it yet).

Well, I agree with 2, but everyone knew 1 already. I think it was more having sex without being married is not immoral. And nobody else’s business.

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**Author:** ![Grotonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c2a13f/32.png) [@Grotonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grotonian)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/12 "2015-02-13T05:57:07Z")

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> [@nkdb](#):
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> Why do you think it is that ALL of these years after the sexual revolution, men and some women too, still do not realize that it takes sustained attention to the woman’s clitorus …for the majority of women to have orgasms.

Do you not realize how difficult continual (but NOT continuous!–that irritates! and not too infrequent!–Christ, that’s why I’m here!) stimulation is, especially when it varies so widely from woman to woman? There’s a reason a lot of men just say, “Eh, you be on top.”

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/13 "2015-02-13T15:16:43Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Well, I agree with 2, but everyone knew 1 already. I think it was more having sex without being married is not immoral. And nobody else’s business.

That’s really what I meant. The pre-revolutionary attitude to unmarried sex was about like the current attitude to sex with minors: We grudgingly admit that human nature leads people towards it, but only Bad People succumb to the temptation.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/14 "2015-02-13T15:27:09Z")

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> [@nkdb](#):
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> Why do you think it is that ALL of these years after the sexual revolution, men and some women too, still do not realize that it takes sustained attention to the woman’s clitorus (through stroking the clitorus, grinding or rubbing the vulva on the man’s pubis during intercourse, or a plethora of other means) for the majority of women to have orgasms.

Actually, I’m not sure that’s true. Most of the sample of women (admittedly a bit small for statistical purposes) I’ve been intimate with since finding out about the G-spot have been able to orgasm through G-spot stimulation alone.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/15 "2015-02-13T18:18:10Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Here’s my observation:
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> It’s 2015, and a woman who has been with me for 15 years still doesn’t get that I not only do I not expect reciprocation for oral action, I don’t want it. I get satisfaction out of giving satisfaction. Why is that so GD hard for people to understand?

Are you talking about “people” not understanding or “a woman who has been with [you] for 15 years” not understanding?

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/16 "2015-02-13T18:56:26Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Are you talking about “people” not understanding or “a woman who has been with [you] for 15 years” not understanding?

I’ve seen similar reactions prior to her.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/17 "2015-02-13T18:58:42Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> I get off on the idea that I have the power to do that. (No they aren’t faking. Shut-up!) So if the difficulty is in understanding how I can be so self-less is the problem…Oh I’m not! I’m not being self-less at all. I get off on it.I

Maybe she gets off on that too. I just blew your mind, didn’t I?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/18 "2015-02-14T16:20:55Z")

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_ **Stampede!** _

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/19 "2015-02-14T17:08:48Z")

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Remember my rule of thumb, people: Never take Medical Record advice from someone who can’t spell ‘HIPAA’ and never take sex advice from someone who can’t spell ‘clitoris’. 😉

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**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-these-years-after-the-sexual-revolution/712513/20 "2015-02-14T17:29:41Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Actually, I’m not sure that’s true. Most of the sample of women (admittedly a bit small for statistical purposes) I’ve been intimate with since finding out about the G-spot have been able to orgasm through G-spot stimulation alone.

Of course, there are internal components of the clitoris that go down along either side of the vagina right around that point. Sometimes I wonder if g spot stimulation isn’t really clitoral stimulation from the inside. (And I am fully willing to help with the research if anyone needs a hand, so to speak.)

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