# All Things NFC East 2005 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 17, 2005, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566 "2005-10-17T06:01:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/261 "2005-12-12T06:28:59Z")
WOO-HOO! For a minute there, when NYG was in OT with Phil, I thought my 'Boys might recapture the East. Hopefully, Parcells has learned that when he opens up the offense, he wins. When he tries to “establish the run” for 3.5 quarters of the game, he loses. My bold biassed picks for next week: **KC** @ NYG (Saturday) **Dallas** @ Wash Phil @ **StL** ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/262 "2005-12-12T14:02:19Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > WOO-HOO! For a minute there, when NYG was in OT with Phil, I thought my 'Boys might recapture the East. Hopefully, Parcells has learned that when he opens up the offense, he wins. When he tries to “establish the run” for 3.5 quarters of the game, he loses. > > My bold biassed picks for next week: > > **KC** @ NYG (Saturday) > **Dallas** @ Wash > Phil @ **StL** The KC game scares me but KC @ \*\*NYG \*\* **Dallas** @ Wash Phil @ **StL** ---
**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/263 "2005-12-12T14:09:50Z")
After yesterday’s effort in which the Giants seemed determined to keep the Eagles in the game I’m a bit worried about the KC game too. In fact, if they were playing it in Kansas City I’d probably write it off. I’m feeling good about the remaining games, though, because I think they can beat Washington and Oakland is Oakland. I don’t like where Christmas and New Year’s fall this year, because I hate Saturday games that don’t involve the NCAA. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/264 "2005-12-12T15:28:00Z")
Re: the hold on Whitten, it wasn’t called against the DB but instead on the LB, #56, who held him prior to the release of the ball, hence the confusion. Yes, definately a hold. Didn’t get to see much of the NYG/PE lovefest yesterday aside from during commercials in the Cowboys win. Can anyone tell me why the Giants had such a hard time, especially considering Philly’s 42-0 flustercluck last Monday? I’d figured it was to be another rout. KC @ NYG (undecided until hear more about Gs yesterday) **Dallas** @ Wash **Phil** @ StL ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/265 "2005-12-12T15:51:45Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > Can anyone tell me why the Giants had such a hard time, especially considering Philly’s 42-0 flustercluck last Monday? I’d figured it was to be another rout. Peter King of Sports Illustrated described it as Philly “gut check.” I gather that Philly decided to play and not quit. That’s all I got. Here’s a poll question: How good will Philly be next year? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/266 "2005-12-12T16:03:09Z")
Giants Defense started out badly and they lost Pierce early. The Giants best Tackler. The O-line was down to it last reserve and Philly play very well. Additionally Eli was having a bad day. I think he was getting gun shy because of the weak O-Line. 2 4th qtr interceptions on bad passes nearly killed us. Jim ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/267 "2005-12-12T16:18:39Z")
I forgot to mention that the Giants defense seemed to make a major half time change, stressing pass rush and leading to I think 5 2nd half sacks after only 1 in the first half. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2005, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/268 "2005-12-12T21:14:56Z")
For a weird moment I was grumbling at Philly for leading the Giants and ruining my pick for the week’s football pool. Then I snapped back to my senses. I was so glad to see Anthony Henry back. I had my doubts when they spent so much money on him, but damn he has been worth it this year. I heard a sad rumor that they may let Leroi Glover go next year because of the salary cap. :mad: **KC** @ NYG **Dallas** @ Wash **Phil** @ StL All visitors this week! ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/269 "2005-12-16T07:43:47Z")
[WTF!?](http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent) Joe Friggin’ Theismann picks Dallas over Wash. :eek: **TWICE THIS SEASON!** :eek: :eek: while picking the 'Skins over just about everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Madd\_Maxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Madd\_Maxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madd_Maxx)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/270 "2005-12-16T17:40:36Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > [WTF!?](http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent) > > Joe Friggin’ Theismann picks Dallas over Wash. :eek: > > **TWICE THIS SEASON!** :eek: :eek: > > while picking the 'Skins over just about everyone else. Surely, it’s a typo. Either that or space aliens have taken control of Joe’s robotic leg and are threatening to kick Paul McGuire and Mike Patrick live on the air if he didn’t pick the Cowgirls. [/tin foil hat off] ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/271 "2005-12-16T18:18:20Z")
If the Chiefs manage to beat the Giants on Sat, I just might explode from excitment before the Washington vs Dallas game!! Go skins baby! ---
**Author:** ![Crandolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7cd45c/32.png) [@Crandolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crandolph)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/272 "2005-12-16T18:26:36Z")
I was away for a couple of weeks, and actually scored a ticket to the… ugh… Eagles-Seahawks game. Ack ack. Well it looks like the Giants take the NFC East this year, but I don’t see them going far in the playoffs. I think the Eagles compete for the NFC East next season. We’re getting a lot of our players back next year who were injured this season (only 2 of the current 11 offensive starters are the team from the Super Bowl) and although the other 3 teams have improved they’re still not terribly impressive. Witness the Giants needing an OT turnover to beat the hobbled Eagle second (and third) stringers… ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/273 "2005-12-16T18:30:28Z")
> [@Madd Maxx](#): > > Surely, it’s a typo. Either that or space aliens have taken control of Joe’s robotic leg and are threatening to kick Paul McGuire and Mike Patrick live on the air if he didn’t pick the Cowgirls. [/tin foil hat off] Not much of a threat there. I would kick those two jack-offs just for the hell of it. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/274 "2005-12-16T18:32:15Z")
> [@Dob](#): > > If the Chiefs manage to beat the Giants on Sat, I just might explode from excitment before the Washington vs Dallas game!! Go skins baby! Whether Giants win or lose (please win), I am rooting for the Skins over Dallas. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/275 "2005-12-16T19:03:50Z")
Dallas is healthy and has proven they can dominate the 'Skins. They just need to finish the game. The Giants have a couple of key defensive injuries thay play into KC’s running strength. On the other hand, KC has a weak secondary, and NYG has a decent long-pass game. The difference will be that KC is going to more hell-bent on winning after getting burned by Dallas that way last week. KC will fight harder than NYG. Dallas takes the NFC East! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/276 "2005-12-16T19:19:26Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > Dallas is healthy and has proven they can dominate the 'Skins. They just need to finish the game. > > The Giants have a couple of key defensive injuries thay play into KC’s running strength. > > On the other hand, KC has a weak secondary, and NYG has a decent long-pass game. > > The difference will be that KC is going to more hell-bent on winning after getting burned by Dallas that way last week. KC will fight harder than NYG. > > Dallas takes the NFC East! 😃 Giants are w/o Pierce and that is a big blow. The O-line is down 2 starters, no good. This game worries me a lot. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/277 "2005-12-16T20:16:21Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > [WTF!?](http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent) > > Joe Friggin’ Theismann picks Dallas over Wash. :eek: > > **TWICE THIS SEASON!** :eek: :eek: > > while picking the 'Skins over just about everyone else. You will also note that he has the worst experts “pick’em” rating on that page, by a healthy margin. Hopefully he’s wrong about this one as well. The Redskins top 3 CBs are all listed on the injury report this week (probable), so that concerns me a bit. If the D-line can get to Bledsoe early in the game, that would go a long way toward a 'Skins win. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/278 "2005-12-18T01:57:14Z")
NYG beats KC. Well… shit. At least Tampa Bay lost and Dallas could move into the #5 seed. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/279 "2005-12-18T03:18:52Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > The Tiki extension, I thought, was terrible. He was signed at a reasonable salary through next year, when his skills will start to crumble. Perfect. Unfortunately, we tacked on two years and some guaranteed money to his contract, and got no cap relief. It’s a nice gesture to a classy guy who’s meant a lot to the franchise, but there’s no salary cap exemption for nice gestures. I still think you’re completely insane. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2005, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566/280 "2005-12-18T16:04:19Z")
If Skins win today, Dallas cannot win Division and Skins need to win out with Giants losing out. I really hope Skins win. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-things-nfc-east-2005/326566.md?page=15)