# All Tricks, No Treats (October Mini-Rants)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 30, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693 "2021-09-30T21:48:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![slalexan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@slalexan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slalexan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/141 "2021-10-13T21:24:19Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> For example, if he’s walking past a sinkful of dirty dishes multiple times a day, that makes Mom do the managerial task of assigning him to do the damn dishes.  
> Far more helpful would be if he just … yanno … washed the dishes without having to be told, “Look! See all those dishes? They ain’t gonna wash themselves.”

THIS! You get it! It’s this specific thing. Like he knows dishes need to be cleaned and has eyes to see that the sink is full, but he never takes the initiative to just do them. But he also is just completely oblivious about things like school work and PTO meetings and doctors appointments.

However, I have finally put on my big girl panties and told my husband what is going on and he said he would help out with the things I specifically ask for help with. It is a step in the right direction and I already feel better having just told him.

In other news, work just had a training about cyber security. It basically said don’t click links in weird emails and don’t write your password down. I’m sad people still need to be told these things.

ETA: typos

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/142 "2021-10-13T21:53:28Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> But this still puts the burden of decision-making and just noticing what needs to be done squarely on Mom, and excuses Dad from having to perform any managerial input in his own home.
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> For example, if he’s walking past a sinkful of dirty dishes multiple times a day, that makes Mom do the managerial task of assigning him to do the damn dishes.  
> Far more helpful would be if he just … yanno … washed the dishes without having to be told, “Look! See all those dishes? They ain’t gonna wash themselves.”

I don’t disagree at all.

Something like doing the dishes is different to me though. Dirty dishes are a standard thing that should be a part of everyone’s life since childhood. A responsible adult should know that dirty dishes need to be cleaned and as long as you aren’t lazy and helpless, or there isn’t an arrangement ahead of time (you do the dishes, I take care of laundry and take out the garbage) then you should know to clean them.

That’s different than dealing with a newborn. That’s a new situation you don’t deal with constantly your whole life. You handle it a year or so at a time and then you don’t anymore. So anything involved with that is new. I think that missing duties in caring for a baby is a bit more excusable than a chore that every human being on the planet not born in a cave should be familiar since childhood.

Either way though, yes I was deliberate when I said I was “clueless” at times in what a baby needed, but in my defense with both of my kids I really tried. My daughters spent a lot of time sleeping on me. I was always the main diaper changer. I’m no stranger to feeding a kid (whether from a bottle or jar or normal food as they get older). I have spent hours trying to get a kid to go to sleep or (so, so much worse) trying to get them to go _back_ to sleep. (Somehow I figured out that spinning in an office chair helped my younger daughter go to sleep, though ugh I wanted to throw up by the time I was done.)

If dad isn’t stepping up, let him know. Sometimes even those of us who really put in the effort and like being active dads miss something.

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/143 "2021-10-13T22:16:41Z")

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You should read this and then read it to your husband.

> **[Farewell and Thank You](https://seramount.com/working-mother/)**
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> After over 40 years of serving working parents, the Working Mother chapter is coming to a close. We are moving in a new direction, focusing our efforts more fully on making transformational change within organizations to create equity and inclusion...

It’s a book worth buying as well.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/144 "2021-10-14T16:49:18Z")

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I just got an email from a bartender I know, asking if I know a guy, “Jon Doe”, who passed away. They will be having some kind of memorial for him at the brewery. I did not know him. I found his Facebook and maybe recognize him from the pics.

Well, the Doe family’s loss is my gain. The bartender told me his death makes his mug eligible for the next person on the list. That’s me!!! I’ve been on the waiting list for the mug club for 2 or 3 years, silently moving up as people moved away or died.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/145 "2021-10-14T16:54:29Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Well, the Doe family’s loss is my gain. The bartender told me his death makes his mug eligible for the next person on the list. That’s me!!! I’ve been on the waiting list for the mug club for 2 or 3 years, silently moving up as people moved away or died.

Congratulations on inheriting a dead guy’s coffee cup? I’d wash it before using it.

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**Author:** ![overlyverbose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9dc877/32.png) [@overlyverbose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overlyverbose)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/146 "2021-10-14T16:58:11Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> But this still puts the burden of decision-making and just noticing what needs to be done squarely on Mom, and excuses Dad from having to perform any managerial input in his own home.

I rarely get upset at home, but when I do, this is more or less what it boils down to. I HATE having to make decisions for everyone else, especially on things that are so obvious (to me). And the old refrain, “Well if you needed help, you should’ve ASKED,” is no good, because I’m going to stop asking if I’m constantly told, “Okay, I’ll do it,” and nothing happens. I write on a wipe board on the fridge every week what activities happen that week but still delegate drop offs and pickups. I write groceries needed, appointments, etc. I still decide when all of that happens and who will do it, as well as what needs to be cleaned, when, how long it’ll take, who’s doing what chore…the whole thing is infuriating.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/147 "2021-10-14T17:50:46Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Congratulations on inheriting a dead guy’s coffee cup?

Beer mug. There are a limited number, each a bit larger than a pint glass and $1 off each fill. It’s a huge deal (to me).

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/148 "2021-10-14T18:05:06Z")

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> [@overlyverbose](#):
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> I write on a wipe board on the fridge every week what activities happen that week but still delegate drop offs and pickups. I write groceries needed, appointments, etc. I still decide when all of that happens and who will do it, as well as what needs to be cleaned, when, how long it’ll take, who’s doing what chore…the whole thing is infuriating.

In the corporate world, the manager handling this many decision-making tasks doesn’t actually do any of the work. The manager’s work is delegating those tasks out.

What infuriates me (including domestic situations of my own) is when the manager is doing all the delegating AND handling most of the tasks.

“If you don’t do it, I will. If I don’t do it, it doesn’t get done.”  
^^ is a shitty position. Doubly, no triply so, if your so-called “partner” shoves you into that position.

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**Author:** ![slalexan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@slalexan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slalexan)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/149 "2021-10-14T19:04:41Z")

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> [@slumtrimpet](#):
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> You should read this and then read it to your husband.

I’ve seen it before but I needed reminding. Just a protip, if you are like really new to the internet, don’t read the comments. Those comments are a terrifying place.

Another example is the carpet in our house. We rent our house and part of our lease agreement is that we pay for professional cleaning of the carpets once per year. Every year, I organize making sure we have the money set aside, scheduling the carpet cleaners, staying with them while the work is done and making sure we don’t screw up all their hard work after. Nothing about this task makes it make more sense for me to do it myself. This isn’t what I do for a living. (My husband manages the cars becuase he’s an automechanic). This isn’t something that stems from something only I can do. (Like nursing the baby and being in charge of his feedings. I am lactating so it makes sense for me to manage it.) This is just a chore. And its one of those things in our household that, if I don’t do it, it doesn’t get done.

Enough complaining about my mental load. The photographer that took the newborn pictures of the baby lost the pictures in an accident. She has offered to do another free session, which I have booked for this weekend. But it looks like it might rain and I wanted cute pictures in the fall leaves like a proper basic white bitch family.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/150 "2021-10-14T19:06:18Z")

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I just wanna say, you know how some days your work life is what you thought it’d be, and other days, you have to chase 70 screaming fourth graders away from their abandoned lunches and inside so the bears don’t attack?

Today was one of them other days.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/151 "2021-10-14T19:21:58Z")

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For the past few months I have been getting calls soliciting me to join in on various class-action lawsuits regarding such things as mesh implants, exposure to various chemicals, etc. I’m used to seeing (or more precisely, fast-forwarding through) TV ads for this sort of thing, but when did it become cost-effective to call random people for these lawsuits?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/152 "2021-10-14T20:10:39Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I just wanna say, you know how some days your work life is what you thought it’d be, and other days, you have to chase 70 screaming fourth graders away from their abandoned lunches and inside so the bears don’t attack?

Are you literally living in a _Far Side_ comic?!

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/153 "2021-10-14T20:11:42Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Are you literally living in a _Far Side_ comic?!

They have a lot of bears where he lives. I was recently there for three days and saw bears on two of those days. And I was in town both days - not out in the woods somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/154 "2021-10-14T20:13:29Z")

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> [@romansperson](#):
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> They have a lot of bears where he lives.

I would assume so. However his post seems like something you’d read at the bottom of a panel where a bunch of chubby bespectacled children with 50’s hairstyles are running from heavy-browed bears.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/155 "2021-10-14T20:14:43Z")

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Only less funny.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/156 "2021-10-14T20:17:02Z")

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Yeah, Gary Larson would have put it in a more pithy way I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/157 "2021-10-14T20:21:17Z")

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No, I mean as in it’s really not very funny when you turn around and suddenly there’s a bear standing on its hind legs about 12 feet way from you. It would be even less funny if you have a bunch of kids to worry about on top of that.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/158 "2021-10-14T20:25:34Z")

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On the positive side, if they stay up on their hind legs they can’t move very fast.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/159 "2021-10-14T20:31:02Z")

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Unless they have Segways.

[![](https://d.furaffinity.net/art/eligecos/1419372382/1419372382.eligecos_bear_segway.jpg) ](https://d.furaffinity.net/art/eligecos/1419372382/1419372382.eligecos_bear_segway.jpg)

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/all-tricks-no-treats-october-mini-rants/951693/160 "2021-10-14T23:59:49Z")

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> [@slalexan](#):
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> I’ve seen it before but I needed reminding. Just a protip, if you are like really new to the internet, don’t read the comments. Those comments are a terrifying place.

There were comments?  
brb going to check them out now (I feel the need to up my blood pressure)

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