All you poor, deluded sufferers of communist health care in Europe, take heart

Well I can see why Bricker has his dander up on this one. He made a claim, it was proven wrong in concept, yet not detail, he admitted it, and everybody’s been up his nose since then. How often do people admit they’re wrong about things, even when only in a general way instead of on the specific details? Hardly seems worth sewing the scarlett C on him now.

Still, it would be/will be fun to see him take out his zircon-encrusted nitpicking tweezers and parse the other guys to tears. “Nibbled to death by ducks” leaps to mind.

Is the concept of “joke” foreign to you? I know humor can be difficult to convey in a printed medium, but sheesh, I added smilies, didn’t you notice? Earlier I was complimentary of his answer to my direct question, and I have not quibbled about the resolution of his not-bet with EP. Methinks thou hast misdirected thine protest.

You are assuming the right wingers who do that are making a rational, informed opinion based on an objective review of various health care policies around the globe.

What is really happening is a bunch of creationist climate change deniers are assuming that because we are Americans we are automatically the best. Most of them have never even visited a foreign country, let alone understand anything about the health system either at home or abroad.

The people who observe our health care system rationally virtually never say it is a good system from what I’ve seen.

What a tedious thread. I don’t give two shits about some retarded bet or the guy who made it. It’s all quite simple: the essential feature about a health care system is that people who are sick get taken care of. If it doesn’t do that, it isn’t good. So if a person gets cancer but only can afford treatment IF he has insurance and IF he got his insurance before he had any trace of cancer, then the system sucks and we need to fix it. If you think it’s okay that a system allows insurance to welsh on coverage because of preconditions, relevant or not, then you’re an asshole.

Well, if he hadn’t made the claim in such a childish way in the first place, and hadn’t afterwards specified over and over again that he was technically right, and then resorted to arguing about how wagers work (even though there, clearly, was never a wager here to begin with), he might not have earned so much ire.

I’m conversely surprised that so many people are trying to argue in his favor after he said something so completely asinine. I’d expect someone to be the object of ridicule after what he said, but you and several other people are vociferously defending him. Especially given that it appears he’s got a history of arguing against health care reform. Not that it’s news at all that opponents of health care reform are uninformed, but it is significant and it’s something everyone should pay attention to.

Well, we know THAT; he came around on gay marriage years ago.

bloody commies and obviously atheists working on a Sunday. :smiley:

Bob you have summed it beautifully.

In Australia we have issues with our health care system as does every country but you do not go bankrupt if you get sick here. What are dopers thoughts on this?

Should health care be socialised? Should we all contribute the health of our fellow nation dwellers?

Yes.

In another thread, a wise doper once said

Seems to me that back in kindergarten and Sunday school there was a lot of emphasis on sharing, so socialized health care is just a logical extension.

Amen.

We have system that denies coverage for people with existing conditions. In other words, sick people, the people who need it most!

Holy fuck people. If you are OK with this, you are indeed a giant puckering oscillating asshole.

/point and laugh. Keep clinging to that life preserver. There is land out there somewhere!

People have beaten all around this bush, but I’m willing to call the bold part a flat out lie. But then in true Bricker fashion you have the italic part to keep you afloat, with eyelashes a-batting. Yes, I know the complete statement has its own meaning. I’m saying you look the fool for nit-picking in defense of such an obvious flaw with the profit-motive in health care. The other posters on this board who have more invested in you are patting you on the back for your change of heart, but know that at least one lurker finds your ‘style’ transparent, tedious, and pathetic. I’m willing to bet many more than one (but the bet is only valid on a Tuesday, under a full moon, wearing green socks).

Nah, they’re all Jews, except for one Muslim nurse.

They should be called Excretive, rather than Accretive :smiley: