# Allah Does Not Love You (Chick Tract). **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 2, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285 "2003-01-02T22:11:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![d12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/71c47a/32.png) [@d12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d12)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/1 "2003-01-02T22:11:43Z")
Recently this cartoon poped up[http://www.chick.com/./reading/tracts/5020/5020\_01.asp](http://www.chick.com/./reading/tracts/5020/5020_01.asp) and I was wondering, is there any truth to it? _drops the puck_ ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/2 "2003-01-02T22:16:57Z")
Any truth to which part? ---
**Author:** ![d12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/71c47a/32.png) [@d12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d12)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/3 "2003-01-02T22:18:51Z")
The concept of Jesus (and God) love you and mention it, while Allah does not because it is never mentioned that he does. Aswell, why follow a diety who does not treat his people well at all. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/4 "2003-01-02T22:21:01Z")
Every word Jack Chick writes is a lie, including “and” and “the”. (paraphrased from a bitchy comment by Mary McCarthy about Lillian Hellman) ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/5 "2003-01-02T22:24:48Z")
I think what Jack is saying is that the God of Muhammed, Allah, is not the Christian God, and does not love you like the Christian God does, because he either doesn’t exist or is actually a demon of some sort bent on deceiving Muslims and leading them from Christianity. I don’t believe it is a Muslim belief that Allah does not love people. ---
**Author:** ![d12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/71c47a/32.png) [@d12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d12)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/6 "2003-01-02T22:25:03Z")
> [@](#): > > Every word Jack Chick writes is a lie, including “and” and “the”. So the excerpts taken from the Bible and Koran mean nothing? ---
**Author:** ![d12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/71c47a/32.png) [@d12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d12)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/7 "2003-01-02T22:26:37Z")
pravnik: I think he’s saying that he (Allah) never mentions in any text that he loves his people. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/8 "2003-01-02T22:27:17Z")
I don’t see any excerpts from the Koran, just a few weak paraphrases. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/9 "2003-01-02T22:28:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by d12 \* > \*\*pravnik: I think he’s saying that he (Allah) never mentions in any text that he loves his people. \*\* Ah, I see. That I dunno. ---
**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/10 "2003-01-02T22:32:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by d12 \* > \*\*So the excerpts taken from the Bible and Koran mean nothing? \*\* Only to believers of those books but beyond that Jack’s bizarre brand of ultra fundimental Christianity is hard for even other Christians to swallow. I won’t go as far as to say that **every** word that appears in his tracts is a lie but he completely misses the lessons of Jesus Christ more often than not. FWIW I think Jack’s justification for “Allah doesn’t love you” is that God did the whole John 3:16 bit giving his only son for our salvation but Allah did not. Please note that while while nearly all Christians, Jews and Muslims agree that they all worship the same God of Abraham Jack asserts that Allah is nothing more than a pre-islamic moon idol. ---
**Author:** ![d12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/71c47a/32.png) [@d12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d12)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/11 "2003-01-02T22:38:59Z")
What about the case of Jesus saying: Do unto others as I have done unto you? I’m no Islam expert but don’t they condem all others and, well I won’t say go over board and say that everyone who is not Muslim call them an infidel… I lost my thought ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/12 "2003-01-02T22:41:49Z")
> [@](#): > > [http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5020/5020\_01.asp](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5020/5020_01.asp) I kinda like the cute yipping doggie in the 5th pair of panels there. His tail looks like part of a circular saw blade. ---
**Author:** ![Azael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@Azael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azael)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/13 "2003-01-02T22:46:54Z")
I can’t get the whole thing to load but I kind of see where he is going… If Jack Chicks thinks he found the “great loophole” in Islam that proves that Jesus is/was the “Son of God” then he should be having it out with the religious scholars. I’m curious what an Islamic person would have to think about this line of reasoning. And I’m sick of Christians going on about being kind to others like they f\*\*\*ing invented it. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/14 "2003-01-02T22:47:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by d12 \* > pravnik: I think he’s saying that he (Allah) never mentions in any text that he loves his people. I believe this may be what Chick is _claiming_, but if so, it is incorrect. One of the [Ninety-Nine Names of God](http://www.sufism.org/society/asma/) by which Muslims call God (Allah) is [Al-Wadud](http://www.sufism.org/society/asma/wadud.html), “the Loving One”. Other titles include “the All-Compassionate”, “the Forgiving”, and “the Protecting Friend”. Of course one could no doubt quote other passages of the Qur’an (or other epithets of Allah) which would show a harsher side to the God of the Muslims, but one could certainly quote Bible passages to do the same with Chick’s God as well. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/15 "2003-01-02T22:49:16Z")
Allah is the same God that Jews and Christians worship. The Koran is full of references to Allah’s love of man. Chick is is saying that because Mohammed wasn’t crucified that “Allah” doesn’t care. Chick is simply ignorant of both Islam and Christianity. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/16 "2003-01-02T22:55:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Padeye \* > **Jack asserts that Allah is nothing more than a pre-islamic moon idol.** Yep: [http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042\_01.asp](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp) ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/17 "2003-01-02T23:10:36Z")
Searching for the word love in the Koran: [sample quotes](http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=simple&q1=love&size=First+100) > [@](#): > > [2.195] And spend in the way of Allah and cast not yourselves to perdition with your own hands, and do good (to others); surely Allah loves the doers of good. > … > [3.31] Say: If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/18 "2003-01-02T23:38:47Z")
Arnold: Don’t forget the way so many of the surahs begin: > [@](#): > > In the name of Allah, the most beneficient, the most merciful. ---
**Author:** ![Azael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@Azael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azael)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/19 "2003-01-02T23:52:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > Yep: [http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042\_01.asp](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp) \*\* Ugh. [Things like this](http://www.chick.com/tractimages71198/0042/0042_20.gif) make sense in Jack Chick’s own world of psuedo-science and illogical deductions. ---
**Author:** ![Azael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@Azael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azael)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2003, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allah-does-not-love-you-chick-tract/146285/20 "2003-01-02T23:53:44Z")
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