# "Allahu Akbar" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2015, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589 "2015-11-14T20:12:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/41 "2015-11-15T01:34:52Z")
> [@ElderSign](#): > > A Muslim shoots civilians and blows himself up. > IT’S NOT ABOUT RELIGION, BIGOT! No one on this board has made that argument. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/42 "2015-11-15T01:38:57Z")
And before you argue, **ElderSign** , what’s being said here is that the terrorist’s motives in your hypothetical are obviously religion. What’s being disagreed with is the conclusions you draw about that religion in general as a result, and what you think should be done about it. THAT is why the word “bigot” comes up. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/43 "2015-11-15T01:59:11Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > No one on this board has made that argument. But they can’t defeat any of the arguments people here _have_ made. What do you expect them to do? They can’t vote Trump for a whole 'nother _year_ yet! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/44 "2015-11-15T02:52:24Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Ding! We have a winner! Congratulations! You have the support of the dumbest, most pathetic poster on this board, whose claim to fame is the ability to fuck a paper towel tube while crouching. Your mother must be very proud of you. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/45 "2015-11-15T03:35:32Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > whose claim to fame is the ability to fuck a paper towel tube while crouching. In an effort to defend a pedophile, one might add. Quite an endorsement. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/46 "2015-11-15T04:03:45Z")
[aside] > [@John\_DiFool](#): > > But what of Jeff? What of Jeff? > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Jeff is pretty great too. The guy can rock a fez like nobody else. I am proud to be on a message board with gentlemen of culture such as yourselves. [/aside] ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/47 "2015-11-15T04:10:23Z")
Less than a week ago, we had a thread about a Christian who was calling for gays to be executed. Should every Christian be condemned because of this? This week we have a group of Muslims committing a horrendous act of terrorism. Should every Muslim be condemned because of this? Nobody is denying that some Muslims are terrorists. We’re pointing out that most Muslims are not terrorists. Don’t be anti-Muslim. Be anti-terrorist. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/48 "2015-11-15T04:11:34Z")
Some people, when they lose a thread, just can’t let it go, even years after the fact. So they resort to lies and distortions to make themselves feel better. In the case of **EP** and **Guinniepig** even that fails because they’re such losers few people listen to them anyway. Yet they soldier on, trying and failing again and again to achieve relevence. It would be sad if they weren’t such morons. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/49 "2015-11-15T04:41:38Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > [aside] > > I am proud to be on a message board with gentlemen of culture such as yourselves. > [/aside] Me too. We should meet at the Tofu Hut. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/50 "2015-11-15T04:56:35Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Some people, when they lose a thread, just can’t let it go, even years after the fact. “But you fuck _one_ sheep…” ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/51 "2015-11-15T05:47:50Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Someone should draw a disrespectful image of Islam’s Prophet, that’ll get them good! I did, in the snow. In yellow. Well, “yellowish”. I’ve been drinking. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/52 "2015-11-15T06:08:34Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > keep in mind that there’s like a billion Muslims in the world and if they were all bat-shit crazy like these guys, you’d be seeing crap like this happen every day. Hell, if one-quarter of the world’s Muslims were on the death-cult’s side… you would already be dead. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/53 "2015-11-15T07:10:34Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I did, in the snow. In yellow. Well, “yellowish”. I’ve been drinking. Not official unless you subtitle it in Arabic. Must include explicit reference to The Prophet, though, under the circumstances, you might leave off the whole “blessings and peace, etc.”. A strong and steady stream being necessary, I recommend a ample supply of beer, or, it that isn’t available, Coors. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/54 "2015-11-15T07:44:48Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#): > > Always remember, folks, that “Astorian” is English for “Jesus Christ, this moron is so fucking stupid it’s a miracle he hasn’t forgotten to breathe”. There’s always Alzheimer’s. [☹](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=577192) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/55 "2015-11-15T09:18:57Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Some people, when they lose a thread, just can’t let it go, even years after the fact. So they resort to lies and distortions to make themselves feel better. In the case of **EP** and **Guinniepig** even that fails because they’re such losers few people listen to them anyway. Yet they soldier on, trying and failing again and again to achieve relevence. It would be sad if they weren’t such morons. Dude, you lost that thread and lost it hard. The only reason it became a big deal to bring it up was because what you said was so incredibly stupid that people were mocking you for it. Butts don’t work like paper towel tubes. And the facts of the case proved you wrong about it being something that couldn’t be done. I’m probably the most sympathetic person when it comes to trying to say one thing and having people take it a completely different way. I do it all the time, especially when angry. But there is no way this happened here. Your arguments were just wrong, and you refuse to admit it. And, BTW, we knew exactly what the OP’s point was. That’s why we mocked it. His sheer lack of knowledge while conveying that point actually made it funny. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/56 "2015-11-15T09:46:11Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Your arguments were just wrong, and you refuse to admit it. Is that why people persist to this day in misrepresenting what I said? Is that why they can’t let it go? Usually when people come out on top of an argument they’re willing to let it go (as I’ve done time and again when it comes to this subject). It’s only when they’ve lost that they keep at it and at it and can’t let it go. I almost single-handedly refuted every accusation hurled at Paterno in that thread so I can hardly see how you can claim I lost it. The only thing people had left to try to salvage themselves was to make an issue of the paper towel experiment and they can’t get that right even today. It was never something for me to do, but (heh) for my opponents to do. I’m not going to re-argue the thread here but I’ll be happy to re-visit it in the appropriate thread should anyone really want to go at it again. In the meantime, console yourself with your perceived victory, hollow and insignificant though it may be, but at least try to encourage people to get it right if they’re going to insist on using it to pretend they came out on top. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/57 "2015-11-15T10:32:55Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Is that why people persist to this day in misrepresenting what I said? Is that why they can’t let it go? Usually when people come out on top of an argument they’re willing to let it go (as I’ve done time and again when it comes to this subject). It’s only when they’ve lost that they keep at it and at it and can’t let it go. If you came out on top, why don’t you just ignore any “paper towel tube” comments? Show us you’re the bigger man. BTW: I don’t need such comments to know you’re a smug, deluded, out of touch idiot. FYI: Walgreens is having a sale on paper towels this week. I’m going to regret this, aren’t I? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/58 "2015-11-15T10:56:03Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > If you came out on top, why don’t you just ignore any “paper towel tube” comments? Show us you’re the bigger man. Because newbies and people who haven’t read the other thread might be fooled into taking such posters at their word. > [@Foggy](#): > > BTW: I don’t need such comments to know you’re a smug, deluded, out of touch idiot. Smug, I’ll grant you…at least some of the time. It isn’t a normal trait by far, but it does arise from time to time. It’s hard not to be smug given some of the things I read around here. “Out of touch” and “idiot” are easy insults to throw around and usually mean little other than the other person has politics that differ from yours. Substantiating their actual existence can be another matter. You got any examples other than political opinions you don’t like? > [@Foggy](#): > > FYI: Walgreens is having a sale on paper towels this week. Fine. Then grab some, and, assuming your lack of endowment allows you to fit, knock yourself out as I suggested and learn firsthand how difficult and ridiculous such an endeavor would be. > [@Foggy](#): > > I’m going to regret this, aren’t I? You should, though I doubt you will. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/59 "2015-11-15T11:12:06Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Because newbies and people who haven’t read the other thread might be fooled into taking such posters at their word. Nah, you got absolutely humped in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589/60 "2015-11-15T11:23:05Z")
Nah. There are a lot of people who want to believe that, even desperately so. So much so in fact that they may have fooled themselves into actually believing it. But when you start or participate in a thread where you’re making all sorts of outlandish accusations about a certain person and a poster comes along, and, bit by bit as the evidence comes out, show you to have been wrong on virtually every one of them, it’s hard to argue that poster lost the thread. Or it would be if one were honest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allahu-akbar/737589.md?page=4)