# Alleged evidence for Bible's veracity

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-evidence-for-bibles-veracity/585439>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 14, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-evidence-for-bibles-veracity/585439 "2011-06-14T15:26:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-evidence-for-bibles-veracity/585439/81 "2011-06-15T23:37:24Z")

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> [@brocks](#):
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> Even ignoring the “Mosaic Law = Good” absurdity, they clearly have never read the Bible. If some Islamic source published an alleged account of Israelites that depicted them as seeing miracle after miracle, and then rejecting God time after time, to the point where the only possible explanation is either utter stupidity or utter depravity, it would replace “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” as the most blatantly anti-Semitic forgery ever perpetrated.
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> I don’t see how anyone can read the book of Exodus without having a WTF? moment every few paragraphs. The constant cycle of sin-oppression-repentance-deliverance in Judges is almost as bad.

The reason for this became much clearer to me after I read “Who Wrote the Bible?” already mentioned several times. If the priest class was trying to centralize worship and to establish monotheism, one way would be to tell stories about how our ancestors were dumb enough to reject God after looking him in the figurative face, so the rejection of their audience is just as dumb. Lewis does something similar in “The Last Battle” where the evil atheists can’t see Aslan.

Of course the comment by the Israelites which was not recorded might have been “I want to see this written up in a peer-reviewed scientific journal!”

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**Author:** ![SecondJudith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@SecondJudith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecondJudith)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-evidence-for-bibles-veracity/585439/82 "2011-06-15T23:42:19Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Well, we’re talking about Moses here. Even without his staff he was a badass–at least, as long as he was within the influence Earth’s low gravity and yellow sun.

To be fair, it wasn’t Moses who defeated God in that story, it was his wife Tzipporah. What that says about her formidability I’ll leave as an exercise for the reader. 😉

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**Author:** ![brocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brocks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brocks)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-evidence-for-bibles-veracity/585439/83 "2011-06-15T23:48:18Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> This would take us straight into GD territory

Holy crap, I somehow thought we WERE in GD. I would not have made some of the comments I did if I had realized this was GQ, and I apologize.

To get back on track, let me pile on with the recommendations of “The Bible Unearthed” and “Who Wrote the Bible?”

I also think the OP might find it very interesting to read “The Age of Reason,” both parts, by Thomas Paine. Yes, THAT Thomas Paine.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-evidence-for-bibles-veracity/585439/84 "2011-06-15T23:53:39Z")

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> [@SecondJudith](#):
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> To be fair, it wasn’t Moses who defeated God in that story, it was his wife Tzipporah. What that says about her formidability I’ll leave as an exercise for the reader. 😉

Obviously “Tzipporah” is an alias of Athena. Don’t worry about the eternally-virgin thing; that’s a cant put about by Hephaestus.

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**Author:** ![Imago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/85e7bf/32.png) [@Imago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imago)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-evidence-for-bibles-veracity/585439/85 "2011-06-16T03:09:21Z")

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> [@SecondJudith](#):
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> To be fair, it wasn’t Moses who defeated God in that story, it was his wife Tzipporah. What that says about her formidability I’ll leave as an exercise for the reader. 😉

No wonder he felt the need to make all the Israelites obey his two big rocks by waving his staff around. 😛

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-evidence-for-bibles-veracity/585439/86 "2011-06-16T19:39:11Z")

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> [@brocks](#):
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> I also think the OP might find it very interesting to read “The Age of Reason,” both parts, by Thomas Paine. Yes, THAT Thomas Paine.

Seconded. The amazing thing is the the things he brings up are still brought up, and are still unanswered in any satisfactory way.

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