# Alleged James Foley "beheading" video is so incredibly fake. How is anyone buying this bullshit? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 21, 2014, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069 "2014-08-21T07:59:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/261 "2014-08-25T14:27:07Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Still waiting. Do your own research, draw your own conclusions. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/262 "2014-08-25T14:27:46Z")
> [@EasyPhil](#): > > Do your own research, draw your own conclusions. Have you done your own research and drawn your own conclusions? I think the conclusion of most posters is that you’re JAQing off. (Also: _what research are you doing?_) ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/263 "2014-08-25T14:29:08Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > This is why stupid people shouldn’t play dumb. They can’t even do it right. > > Again, you are overstating your cite. And now you’re casting doubt on your own experts by saying they are definitely right about the video (you’re more certain than they are) and possibly wrong about Foley’s death. > > I love the self-contradictory idiocy of these two statements. ‘We don’t need experts. That’s why the experts say I’m right.’ Look all you have to say is whether or not you think the video is real and my opinion is that you would be a fool to think that because it’s staged/fake. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/264 "2014-08-25T14:30:03Z")
> [@EasyPhil](#): > > Do your own research, draw your own conclusions. Yeah, VT, just “[study it ou](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E87gciwebw)t.” ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/265 "2014-08-25T14:30:27Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Have you done your own research and drawn your own conclusions? I think the conclusion of most posters is that you’re JAQing off. (Also: _what research are you doing?_) What I have been saying all along has been corroborated by “experts”…what about what you have been saying??? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/266 "2014-08-25T14:32:17Z")
> [@EasyPhil](#): > > Look all you have to say is whether or not you think the video is real and my opinion is that you would be a fool to think that because it’s staged/fake. So the experts you cited are fools? > [@EasyPhil](#): > > What I have been saying all along has been corroborated by “experts”…what about what you have been saying??? Your experts agree with me that he’s dead. So does everybody else. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/267 "2014-08-25T14:34:18Z")
> [@EasyPhil](#): > > Do your own research, draw your own conclusions. My conclusion is that it may or may not be authentic. My guess is that it is. You concluded that it is obviously not, based on viewing the same image I saw. I would like to hear why. You imply that any idiot can tell it’s fake. Help convince this idiot. You have the podium. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/268 "2014-08-25T15:26:06Z")
> [@EasyPhil](#): > > Now that **Experts** are saying the video was “staged” what do you folks have to say? It seems that your logic is that if the video was staged, no murder occurred. But the video may have been staged for any number of reasons. My pet theory is that James Foley yelled out “Allah is a goat felcher” & the terrorist didn’t want that out there, so they spliced in the earlier “practice” execution. > [@EasyPhil](#): > > How do you know he’s dead? The video is fake/staged, where’s the evidence of his death? This video was supposed to be that evidence. I’m siding with your experts, who concluded: “No one is disputing that at some point an execution occurred.” ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/269 "2014-08-25T15:56:29Z")
> [@EasyPhil](#): > > What I have been saying all along has been corroborated by “experts”…what about what you have been saying??? What you now seem to be saying is that Foley is still alive. Which experts corroborate that? Also, please, if you can, give us one logical reason why ISIS would threaten to kill Foley, make a video in which they (apparently) show him dead, but not actually go though with the act. What benefit, in your view, do they get out of it? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/270 "2014-08-25T16:11:24Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Also, please, if you can, give us one logical reason why ISIS would threaten to kill Foley, make a video in which they (apparently) show him dead, but not actually go though with the act. What benefit, in your view, do they get out of it? I guess the theory is ISIS is just a bunch of big ol’ softies, who would never kill anybody, but still want to look like badasses. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/271 "2014-08-25T16:45:33Z")
“[EXPERTS: JAMES FOLEY BEHEADING VIDEO LIKELY FAKE](http://www.infowars.com/experts-james-foley-beheading-video-likely-fake/)” No shit? The “experts” turned out to be fucking idiots? I consider this vindication. I’m sure the apologies from people who said “the ‘experts’ are right, you are wrong” early in this thread will start rolling in any moment now… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/272 "2014-08-25T16:59:45Z")
Maybe you and **EasyPhil** can share notes instead of drinking from the same vat of Kool-Aid. ---
**Author:** ![Peaton\_of\_peat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@Peaton\_of\_peat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peaton_of_peat)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/273 "2014-08-25T17:03:26Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > “[EXPERTS: JAMES FOLEY BEHEADING VIDEO LIKELY FAKE](http://www.infowars.com/experts-james-foley-beheading-video-likely-fake/)” > > No shit? The “experts” turned out to be fucking idiots? I consider this vindication. I’m sure the apologies from people who said “the ‘experts’ are right, you are wrong” early in this thread will start rolling in any moment now… You’re still on beheading video? Get with the times, man, the new big story is that Supertramp did 9/11. It’s true, [ALL CREDIBLE EXPERTS AGREE: SUPERTRAMP DID 9/11 IF YOU DISAGREE THEN YOU’RE PROBABLY A LIZARDMAN???](http://theocculttruth.com/index.php?p=1_167) I expect profuse apologies from everyone who previously said it was done with thermite explosives and not with rock music and orange juice. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/274 "2014-08-25T17:04:20Z")
[Infowars.com](http://Infowars.com)? Holy shit, I’m convinced. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/275 "2014-08-25T17:06:18Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Maybe you and **EasyPhil** can share notes instead of drinking from the same vat of Kool-Aid. Except you’re the only one here who has hopped on the bandwagon. I came to the conclusions in the OP myself, was mocked for it, and now it turns out I was right all along. Derp. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/276 "2014-08-25T17:07:21Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > “[EXPERTS: JAMES FOLEY BEHEADING VIDEO LIKELY FAKE](http://www.infowars.com/experts-james-foley-beheading-video-likely-fake/)” > > No shit? The “experts” turned out to be fucking idiots? I consider this vindication. I’m sure the apologies from people who said “the ‘experts’ are right, you are wrong” early in this thread will start rolling in any moment now… You have indeed been vindicated by none other than “a forensic analyst,” “one expert commissioned to examine the footage,” and “the company, which requested anonymity.” Doesn’t get more rock-solid than that. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/277 "2014-08-25T17:12:41Z")
> [@andros](#): > > [Infowars.com](http://Infowars.com)? Holy shit, I’m convinced. [Foley murder video ‘may have been staged’](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/bill-gardner/11054488/Foley-murder-video-may-have-been-staged.html) [Video of James Foley beheading ‘may have been staged’](http://www.smh.com.au/world/video-of-james-foley-beheading-may-have-been-staged-20140825-1082n4.html) [Foley video with Briton was staged, experts say](http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4186089.ece) [Foley murder video ‘may have been staged’](http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/foley-murder-video-may-have-been-staged-30534070.html) [James Foley execution video staged: experts](http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/james-foley-execution-video-staged-experts/story-fnb64oi6-1227036186543?nk=05729065d8701579c7463b80945f8bcd) Satisfied, or do I need to keep going? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/278 "2014-08-25T17:20:05Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Except you’re the only one here who has hopped on the bandwagon. What bandwagon? I asked you days ago why anyone should give a shit if he was killed on-camera or off, and you still don’t have an answer. Neither does **EasyPhil**. Derp. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_great_unwashed/32/4791_2.png) [@The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/279 "2014-08-25T17:20:22Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Satisfied, or do I need to keep going? There’s always this: [QUOTE=Rigmarole] …cut to a really badly Photoshopped STILL IMAGE of his supposedly beheaded head resting on his supposedly beheaded body? [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069/280 "2014-08-25T17:23:04Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Satisfied, or do I need to keep going? Oh, I think you’ll find I have never disputed the thesis that the video in question was staged. Not even a little. But really, if you want sane people to take you seriously, you might consider leading with sane sources. When you start out with noted insane person and serial liar Alex Jones, you somewhat undermine yourself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-james-foley-beheading-video-is-so-incredibly-fake-how-is-anyone-buying-this-bullshit/696069.md?page=15)