# Alleged murderer killed in drive-by within minutes of being released on bond. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 8, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702 "2017-03-08T17:17:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/1 "2017-03-08T17:17:43Z")
[Dude should’ve stayed in jail!](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-murder-defendant-beats-charge-then-killed-20170307-story.html) And the _Tribune_ needs better editors. ---
**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/2 "2017-03-08T18:39:40Z")
> [@](#): > > At 5:30 p.m. Monday, a friend of Belmont posted the required $10,000 on the bond and Belmont was released at 11:12 p.m., according to jail officials. None of my friends have $10,000 sitting around, and if they did, they wouldn’t spend it on my bail. I wonder if the guy’s friend will get the $10,000 back. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/3 "2017-03-08T18:47:40Z")
Ah, Chicago! The Disneyland of Crime! ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/4 "2017-03-08T18:48:21Z")
This probably wasn’t a coincidence. Somebody evened the score. I wonder if this is gang related? They certainly are capable of retaliation. ---
**Author:** ![peedin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peedin/32/14095_2.png) [@peedin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peedin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/5 "2017-03-08T18:52:30Z")
Of course it was gang related. No I don’t have proof but when you live in Chicago for over 50 years, you know this stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/6 "2017-03-08T20:26:17Z")
> [@peedin](#): > > Of course it was gang related. No I don’t have proof but when you live in Chicago for over 50 years, you know this stuff. If you subtract the gang-related crime from Chicago’s crime statistics, it becomes just about the safest place on earth! ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/7 "2017-03-08T22:30:51Z")
> [@peedin](#): > > Of course it was gang related. No I don’t have proof but when you live in Chicago for over 50 years, you know this stuff. One wonders if his killers arranged the bond…? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/8 "2017-03-08T22:42:23Z")
From the linked article: > [@](#): > > “Oh my God, I can’t believe it,” said Belmont’s attorney, Michael Johnson, who said he has known Belmont’s family for more than two decades. He said he’d seen Belmont at the jail recently as the family put together the bail money. > > “I told him, once he gets out he’s got to get out of the neighborhood,” Johnson said. “Unfortunately this isn’t the first time I’ve seen this.” > > But Johnson said he didn’t believe Belmont’s killing was street justice. The armed robbery and murder weren’t gang-related, Johnson said, and he didn’t think it possible that word spread that quickly of Belmont’s release from jail. Weird. So, Belmont’s family scraped together the $10,000, a friend delivered it, and Belmont was shot within a few blocks of the jail. It sure sounds like the killers were waiting for him. They shot him, raced off in an SUV, crashed the SUV, and took off on foot. If the attorney doesn’t think it was gang-related, and doesn’t think word of Belmont’s release would have spread that quickly, what’s left? Two guys sitting around idly in their SUV decide to kill a random dude who just got out of jail? The family or friend set him up? Mistaken identity? And if the attorney didn’t think Belmont would be targeted for retaliation since the robbery wasn’t gang-related, why did he tell him to leave the neighborhood? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/9 "2017-03-08T23:11:43Z")
> [@Tranquilis](#): > > One wonders if his killers arranged the bond…? [Strawberry Letter 23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC1TBxflN2I&feature=youtu.be&t=3)? ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/10 "2017-03-09T05:04:16Z")
The killers were waiting to steal the bus fare, cheap suit, and cardboard suitcase. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/11 "2017-03-09T20:52:06Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > [Strawberry Letter 23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC1TBxflN2I&feature=youtu.be&t=3)? I should explain. There is an iconic and classic scene in Jackie Brown where Samuel L Jackson convinces Chris Tucker to hide in the ‘dirty assed trunk’ of his car with an empty shotgun, supposedly to scare some people who owe him money in ‘Korea-Town’. SLJ Guilts CT to play along, as he has just paid a $10k Bond to get him out of jail. Once CT gets into the trunk, SLJ drives to an empty lot near by, while playing Strawberry Letter 23 as loudly as he can. Once in the field, SLJ opens the trunk, double-taps the surprised CT… and makes plans to get his bail money back from the Bondsman because CT is dead. As a scene, its incredibly cold and pretty unforgettable. I know that 3-4 clips of this exist on Youtube, but there is so much cursing and so much use of the N-word over and over again that I just don’t feel comfortable posting even a broken link to it here… even if it was double spoiler boxed. I only said “Strawberry Letter 23” in the post above because if you ever do see that scene, that song will always mean someone is about to get capped and in a very cold way. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/12 "2017-03-09T21:15:35Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > From the linked article: > Weird. So, Belmont’s family scraped together the $10,000, a friend delivered it, and Belmont was shot within a few blocks of the jail. It sure sounds like the killers were waiting for him. They shot him, raced off in an SUV, crashed the SUV, and took off on foot. If the attorney doesn’t think it was gang-related, and doesn’t think word of Belmont’s release would have spread that quickly, what’s left? Two guys sitting around idly in their SUV decide to kill a random dude who just got out of jail? The family or friend set him up? Mistaken identity? And if the attorney didn’t think Belmont would be targeted for retaliation since the robbery wasn’t gang-related, why did he tell him to leave the neighborhood? Yeah, I read that statement with a similar amount of incredulity. I’d like to hear what the attorney’s theory is. I’m assuming the attorney must have reasons not to speculate in the affirmative that it was a revenge killing, though I don’t know what those reasons would be at the moment, when a simple “no comment” or “we don’t have enough information at this time” would do and seem to be the more typical response. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/13 "2017-03-09T21:17:17Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > This probably wasn’t a coincidence. Somebody evened the score. > > I wonder if this is gang related? They certainly are capable of retaliation. WTF. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/14 "2017-03-09T21:19:03Z")
> [@peedin](#): > > Of course it was gang related. No I don’t have proof but when you live in Chicago for over 50 years, you know this stuff. Well, it’s possible it wasn’t specifically gang-related, but still a revenge killing/street justice. (I don’t for a moment believe that the shooters are unconnected to the now-dead alleged murderer.) ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/15 "2017-03-09T22:19:58Z")
I don’t know that that lawyer’s thinking. Just because his client’s crime wasn’t gang related, that doesn’t mean that there’s not a friend or relative of the victim out there who’s royally pissed that he would never be tried for murder. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/16 "2017-03-09T23:02:35Z")
I remember an episode of the old show _Hill Street Blues_, in which two guys were being held for raping and murdering a nun. I guess most of the evidence was circumstancial, although the cops were positive these guys had done it. They needed a confession so they told the guys they were going to turn them loose. That would be out the front door of the station, where a very large and angry crowd had gathered. They would certainly have been killed, so the dudes fessed up. I think **Yllaria** has it right. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/17 "2017-03-09T23:49:44Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > I should explain. Ah. Good - I was going bald from the head-scratching. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/18 "2017-03-10T00:56:54Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > I remember an episode of the old show _Hill Street Blues_, in which two guys were being held for raping and murdering a nun. I guess most of the evidence was circumstancial, although the cops were positive these guys had done it. They needed a confession so they told the guys they were going to turn them loose. That would be out the front door of the station, where a very large and angry crowd had gathered. They would certainly have been killed, so the dudes fessed up. > > I think **Yllaria** has it right. That was one of my favorite episodes. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/19 "2017-03-10T01:33:38Z")
There’s also a possibility the intended target was the guy behind the wheel. That happens a LOT around here. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702/20 "2017-03-12T16:05:53Z")
> [@Tranquilis](#): > > Ah. Good - I was going bald from the head-scratching. Yeah, sorry. I watch a lot of movies & have a pretty decent memory of them. You may have never even seen ‘Jackie Brown’, so don’t feel too badly. > [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > There’s also a possibility the intended target was the guy behind the wheel. That happens a LOT around here. I can’t be relieved that gang shooters are such piss-poor shots. Its scary enough that so many have guns. No matter who they were after, think of the sheer number of armed car teams that had to be out on the road that night… circling to try to find and to track Mr. Belmont’s car. Think of the telecom (and GPS?) coordination behind it. He’s just out of lock-up, so you know there were no tracking devices on him or in his things, so there had to be some in the hit team’s cars. Then, its a phone call or a text to a central location where someone takes the address where the car was spotted, “sees” the GPS of the hit teams they have on the roads, and guides the hit teams turn by turn to the area and in the direction Mr Belmont was travelling to set up the hit. It must be like an UBER for murder. Private tracking software like that can’t be too rare; trucking companies have been using them for a decade. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alleged-murderer-killed-in-drive-by-within-minutes-of-being-released-on-bond/781702.md?page=2)