# Allegedly, David Cameron once shagged a pig.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 21, 2015, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087 "2015-09-21T09:11:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/81 "2015-09-22T15:25:05Z")

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And cassetteboy has got in on the act:

[www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBpQJ98rR4o](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBpQJ98rR4o)

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/82 "2015-09-22T16:02:00Z")

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A policeman stops David Cameron in a car with a pig in the front seat. “What are you doing with that pig?” he exclaims. “You should take it to the zoo.”

The following week, the same policeman sees David Cameron with the pig again in the front seat, with both of them wearing sunglasses. The policeman pulls him over. “I thought you were going to take that pig to the zoo!” he says.

Cameron replies, “I did. We had such a good time we are going to the beach this weekend!”

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/83 "2015-09-22T21:45:24Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> The second post references Black Mirror, it seems. Anyway, great news!

> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/charltonbrooker/status/645738652442734592) 🙂

Thank you.

Why isn’t everyone to horrified to joke?

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/84 "2015-09-22T22:04:00Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> Why isn’t everyone to horrified to joke?

The _goat_ is!

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/85 "2015-09-22T23:06:08Z")

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> Anyway, I’ve read and been told about some pretty weird craft ( non-mason ) initiation rites in working-class trades like printing and plumbing and the various forms of engineering. Rather disapproved of by trades unions, they might have pre-industrial origins connected to folklore from back when peasants fiercely rivalled turnips in IQ. ( Maybe they are not known in America. )

There are plenty of pre-union workers’ organisations in the UK. They’re called Guilds or [Livery Companies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livery_company) and they tended to represent the ancient trades. Crucially they stopped creating new Livery Companies just before the industrial revolution (between 1746 and 1926) so missed out on the new trades created by the industrial revolution.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/86 "2015-09-22T23:26:28Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> That was the very first thing that sprang to my mind and I was surprised nobody mentioned it.

Same here.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/87 "2015-09-23T02:04:17Z")

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[![](https://i.imgur.com/CKCoiHw.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/CKCoiHw.jpg)

like you wouldn’t hit that

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/88 "2015-09-23T02:08:08Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/CKCoiHw.jpg)
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> like you wouldn’t hit that

Way too high maintenance.

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**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/89 "2015-09-23T04:48:17Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> Thank you.
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> Why isn’t everyone to horrified to joke?

Because we all hate the Tories, especially that smug, shiny Botox-faced Eton schoolboy, and delight in the chance to take him down a peg or two?

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/90 "2015-09-23T07:04:15Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Crucially they stopped creating new Livery Companies just before the industrial revolution (between 1746 and 1926) so missed out on the new trades created by the industrial revolution.

Partly a matter of “free trade” policy limiting controls on trade and the economy, partly the geography of the new industries being based outside London? The City of London created quite a few for new professions in their sphere:

Full list here

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**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/91 "2015-09-23T07:26:44Z")

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> You Great Darsh Face - thread title word limit and also clarification in the initial post. Please don’t be so quick to accuse me of lying.

You could easily have made the title more truthful although less eye-catching. I calls 'em how I sees 'em. “Shagged a pig” implies a live animal and sexual gratification.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/92 "2015-09-23T07:49:26Z")

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> [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](#):
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> You could easily have made the title more truthful although less eye-catching. I calls 'em how I sees 'em. “Shagged a pig” implies a live animal and sexual gratification.

Dude, when you’re arguing over the niceties of the Prime Minister’s genitalia/pig interface event, you’re losing.

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**Author:** ![fridolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/85f322/32.png) [@fridolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fridolph)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/93 "2015-09-23T07:52:59Z")

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Citizens there are more concern in the economy than his personal life event.

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/94 "2015-09-23T08:08:28Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> There are plenty of pre-union workers’ organisations in the UK. They’re called Guilds or [Livery Companies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livery_company) and they tended to represent the ancient trades. Crucially they stopped creating new Livery Companies just before the industrial revolution (between 1746 and 1926) so missed out on the new trades created by the industrial revolution.

> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> Partly a matter of “free trade” policy limiting controls on trade and the economy, partly the geography of the new industries being based outside London? The City of London created quite a few for new professions in their sphere:
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> Full list here

I’m pretty sure these people, worthy as they may be, substituted long dinners with dreary congratulatory speeches and toasts — at first in old London Inns and lastly in Berni Inns — for covering each other in engine grease and tying the victim to streetlamps.  
Working-class horseplay for apprenticeships was rather rougher than most 20th century Mayors would attend.

Still no pigs though.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/95 "2015-09-23T12:19:44Z")

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> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> Because we all hate the Tories, especially that smug, shiny Botox-faced Eton schoolboy, and delight in the chance to take him down a peg or two?

Oh. OK.

But, “a peg or two”? This doesn’t destroy his career, marriage, entire life? I gather he did not actually have sexual intercourse with that pig, but …

Never mind. I don’t want to know. I’ll just be quietly happy that there is a place where a foolish mistake in one’s youth does not destroy one’s later career, and try to forget that such mistakes include “genitalia / pig interface events” (which line I happily steal, thank you).

I guess it’s better than a place where interface events involving two consenting adults of the same species and opposite genders can nearly bring down the presidency, isn’t it?

Were the any jokes about the pig being of age?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/96 "2015-09-23T12:53:16Z")

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Perhaps Mitch Benn called it best last week…

> [@Mitch Benn on 14 Sept](#):
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> So Corbyn won and Tony Abbot’s out. What was that joke about a Lefty with a lamp and one wish left…?

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/97 "2015-09-23T13:19:48Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> The City of London created quite a few for new professions in their sphere:
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> Full list here

I’ve reported that link as it’s to an executable. The link I gave in my earlier post lists lists all the Livery Companies of London, including the new ones.

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/98 "2015-09-23T14:09:27Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> Were the any jokes about the pig being of age?

Hard to tell. It was cheeky though.

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**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/99 "2015-09-23T14:57:28Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> Dude, when you’re arguing over the niceties of the Prime Minister’s genitalia/pig interface event, you’re losing.

I’m asserting that he did not, in fact, shag a pig as both the thread title and the OP untruthfully state. At this point I guess Jeremy Paxman would start asking “So did Cameron shag a pig or not?” until the accuser stopped blethering about “arguing over the niceties” and admitted what the facts actually are.

So did Cameron shag a pig or not?

> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> Working-class horseplay for apprenticeships was rather rougher than most 20th century Mayors would attend.

My brother in law confirms that the ceremony for a newly-qualified plumber entailed having his hands tied behind his back and a rope tied around his dick and over the top of a door to be attached to the handle on the other side. But that’s just jolly trademan having a lark and not an ex-Etonian Tory whom we want to see squirm for not being a socialist, so it’s all gravy.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/100 "2015-09-23T14:59:00Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> Partly a matter of “free trade” policy limiting controls on trade and the economy, partly the geography of the new industries being based outside London? The City of London created quite a few for new professions in their sphere:
> 
> Full list here

As was mentioned the link you gave was executable. Most posters try to avoid such links for good reason and it was reported several times. I removed the link.

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