# Allegedly, David Cameron once shagged a pig. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 21, 2015, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087 "2015-09-21T09:11:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/101 "2015-09-23T17:59:24Z")
If you can’t tell why shagging a live pig vs putting your penis in the mouth of a pig head is different, then I don’t know what to tell you. I was all ready to explain why pig-fucking would be a big deal, but now I find out he didn’t. You see, pig fucking would be RAPE. That’s why bestiality is wrong–it’s rape. An animal can’t consent. Now I’m completely in line with everyone else. This is no big deal. Gross? Yes. Matter in any way? No. Also, has no one pointed out that the only people who tend to know about the details initiation rituals are those who have also had to do them? That’s kinda the reason why people expect them to remain secret–you tell on me, I’ll tell on you. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/102 "2015-09-23T18:17:05Z")
Well, better the pig than the English people, right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/103 "2015-09-23T19:13:27Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I was all ready to explain why pig-fucking would be a big deal, but now I find out he didn’t. You see, pig fucking would be RAPE. That’s why bestiality is wrong–it’s rape. An animal can’t consent. Whilst pigs are totally on board with having some piece of scum slitting their throats, another dismembering their corpse, and a third defiling their sawn-off head by ejaculating into their dead throats. Why, they’re almost human ! ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/104 "2015-09-24T02:15:24Z")
Actually, someone at the time disclaimed in disbelief: “Hey! What are you doing with that pig??!?” And the animal replied: “Eh, I think he’s going places, so let him have his way with me.” ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/105 "2015-09-24T08:26:59Z")
> [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](#): > > I’m asserting that he did not, in fact, shag a pig as both the thread title and the OP untruthfully state. At this point I guess Jeremy Paxman would start asking “So did Cameron shag a pig or not?” until the accuser stopped blethering about “arguing over the niceties” and admitted what the facts actually are. > > So did Cameron shag a pig or not? That’s the wrong question, Jeremy. The precise details of why and how the future PM’s dick came into voluntary contact with a dead pig’s mouth are less important than the fact that it did. It’s a vivid and humiliating image that will follow him around for the rest of his life. Any attempt to look Prime Ministerial from now on can be punctured at will by use of the phrases “ham-fisted”, “snouts in the trough”, “telling porkies” etc. If you want to get embroiled in a debate about whether insertion of the penis into a mouth constitutes sex or not, or whether it’s fair to consider a pig’s head as a pig for the purposes of accuracy, go right ahead. But all it does is reinforce the image of the PM, the penis and pig. Also, the reason people are joking about the PM shagging a pig isn’t because they don’t understand the details of the story, it’s because it’s a funny notion. And it’s so funny, and it’s so close to what really happened (viz. penis/pig interface) that going on about the details won’t change the jokes people are telling. I will stipulate that this is grossly unfair. That’s why this is a powerful story. Short of the categorical denial that we haven’t had, any engagement with it is damaging. (You will note from above that I’m not even convinced this ever happened.) ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/106 "2015-09-24T11:10:56Z")
> [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](#): > > You could easily have made the title more truthful although less eye-catching. I calls 'em how I sees 'em. “Shagged a pig” implies a live animal and sexual gratification. I think I’ll concede I should have included the word dead but then I’d have got criticised for accusing him of necrophilia. On another board I saw someone write the completely accurate and fairly neutral “Supposedly, Cameron put his penis in a dead pig” as their thread title and got criticised for being too graphic and using profane words in the title. You can’t win. The accusation _is_ that he shagged a dead pig. It’s not my accusation, either, it’s Lord Ashcroft’s. I included a link, and the story is really well publicised so it’s not like it was only one link where people would have had to search for details. > [@j666](#): > > Oh. OK. > > But, “a peg or two”? This doesn’t destroy his career, marriage, entire life? I gather he did not actually have sexual intercourse with that pig, but … > > Never mind. I don’t want to know. I’ll just be quietly happy that there is a place where a foolish mistake in one’s youth does not destroy one’s later career, and try to forget that such mistakes include “genitalia / pig interface events” (which line I happily steal, thank you). > > I guess it’s better than a place where interface events involving two consenting adults of the same species and opposite genders can nearly bring down the presidency, isn’t it? Nah, it doesn’t destroy his career, marriage or entire life. He hasn’t even had to step down as leader of the Tories and he has said before that he’s not going to stand again as PM anyway. I guess that’s yet another reason people are joking about it so much - because it’s not actually life-destroying, just funny. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/107 "2015-09-24T11:16:10Z")
I dunno, when you’re reduced to squealing indignantly, “_But the pig was **dead**!_” as defence, you’ve pretty much lost the battle. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087/108 "2015-09-24T15:01:33Z")
We are entering an age where old cell phone videos can pop up at any time. Future elections are going to get even weirder than this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-david-cameron-once-shagged-a-pig/732087.md?page=5)