# Allegedly hot chicks/studs whose appeal escapes you

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 19, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630 "2009-04-19T16:48:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/21 "2009-04-19T18:39:57Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> My #1 bafflement is Ewan McGregor.

BLASPHEMY!!!

😃

(Oh well, more Ewan for me!)

I’d like to list:  
Ben Affleck,  
Tom Cruise (back in the day, before we found out how batshit he really is),  
Johnny Depp,  
Ashton Kutchner (Topher Grace was so much cuter!)  
Leonardo DiCaprio

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/22 "2009-04-19T18:49:25Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, and others interchangeable with them. They’re just far too skanky for me. Britney just made it even worse, by pretending for all those years that she was so wholesome and pure: At least Madonna’s honest about it.

Paris is, at least, funny. Or willing to mock herself on camera, which is nearly as good. I don’t know anything about Britney’s alleged wholesomeness or lack thereof.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/23 "2009-04-19T18:58:45Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Paris is, at least, funny. Or willing to mock herself on camera, which is nearly as good. I don’t know anything about Britney’s alleged wholesomeness or lack thereof.

Yeah I kind of like Paris. It atleast seems like she’s well aware of what she’s doing and she’s really good at marketing herself. She comes off as kind of smart because of it. The other celebs, like Britney or Lohan, just seem like they had too much to drink one night and made a fool out of themselves.

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/24 "2009-04-19T19:04:30Z")

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Brad Pitt. Something about him just says “caveman” to me. I think it’s his forehead, now that I think about it.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/25 "2009-04-19T19:43:43Z")

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> [@corvidae](#):
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> I don’t get the appeal of Scarlett Johansson. I keep hearing she’s gorgeous, but I don’t see it.

She’s not really that pretty to look at, certainly, but the way she moves and talks is reminiscent of Lauren Bacall in her heyday or a _Body Heat_-era Kathleen Turner, and she can switch between ingenue and siren faster than Michael Bay can blow something up and say, “Awesome!”

Cameron Diaz, much praised in beauty (I believe Roger Ebert once described her as “a genuine sex bomb with a gorgeous face”), is utterly unappealing to me. When placed against Toni Collette playing the “ugly sister” (_In Her Shoes_; didn’t see the film but had to watch the preview an extraordinary number of times) I’d pick the latter any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Diaz also has a limited range as an actress and, frankly, just doesn’t seem to be too bright.

And I’m completely in agreement on Julia Roberts; terrible actress, unappealing smile, and a body that would be good on a scarecrow.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/26 "2009-04-19T19:48:54Z")

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1. Never understood the appeal of George Clooney. I’ve said this loads of times before but to me he looks just like Jay Leno without the chin.

2. I don’t see Owen Wilson either.

3. Orlando Bloom.

OTOH, I think Ewan McGregor, Jonathan Rhys Meyers and James McAvoy are fabulous.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/27 "2009-04-19T19:52:35Z")

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[quote=“Diogenes\_the\_Cynic, post:5, topic:493630”]

Jessica Biel – butterface.  
Rosario Dawson – butterface.

This is where Sir Galahad sticks his face in and says, “I bet you’re gay.”

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/28 "2009-04-19T19:54:55Z")

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Jessica Simpson - don’t care what stage of her life, but her body has never been great and most definitely she is not pretty. Just add to that the eternal stupidity and I feel like I’m on a different planet from most of my fellow human males.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/29 "2009-04-19T20:20:16Z")

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> [@BMax](#):
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> Courtney Love, before or after the plastic surgery. She just looks like a drugged-out skank.

I don’t think anyone, other than perhaps Kurt Cobain, ever considered Courtney Love to be a “hot chick”.

Recently I’ve seen actress Megan Fox mentioned in threads here as an example of a hot chick. I had to look her up on [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Fox) to see who she was (I didn’t see the recent _Transformers_ movie, which is apparently her only significant role to date), and I have to say I was underwhelmed. I mean, I guess she’s better looking than the Average Jane, but by Hollywood standards she’s nothing special. She’s skinny, overly skinny for my tastes but pretty typical for a young starlet, and her face is just kind of generically pretty. Although Fox is only 22 she looks like she’s already had a lot of work done. I don’t know if she actually _has_, but that’s how she looks to me.

Ewan McGregor’s been mentioned in this thread a few times, but I think part of his appeal is that he’s more a “boy next door” type than matinee idol handsome.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/30 "2009-04-19T20:22:08Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Cameron Diaz, much praised in beauty (I believe Roger Ebert once described her as “a genuine sex bomb with a gorgeous face”), is utterly unappealing to me. When placed against Toni Collette playing the “ugly sister” (_In Her Shoes_; didn’t see the film but had to watch the preview an extraordinary number of times) I’d pick the latter any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Diaz also has a limited range as an actress and, frankly, just doesn’t seem to be too bright.

I absolutely agree with you, if we are talking about her current way-too-skinny self. However, back when she had some meat on her bones, say when she did _The Mask_, she absolutely merited Ebert’s description.

As for her intelligence and acting skills… yeah.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/31 "2009-04-19T20:27:17Z")

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I’ve never seen the appeal of Cameron Diaz either. I’m not sure what it is; maybe it’s her eyes.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/32 "2009-04-19T20:28:26Z")

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I’m largely dittoing folks here but Angelina Jolie, Rosario Dawson and Cameron Diaz all manage to avoid my “She’s hot” radar. The fact that Cameron Diaz acts about as well as my cat doesn’t help.

I’ve gone from acknowledging Megan Fox’s looks to completely failing to be impressed by them. Again, the fact that anything I’ve seen/read about her indicates that she’s dumb as a stump who failed stump school doesn’t help. Still, seeing her these days elicts a “Meh” from me.

Christina Ricci is 90% forehead or something. Something about her face just doesn’t sit right with me.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/33 "2009-04-19T21:08:53Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> My #1 bafflement is Ewan McGregor.

Have you seen _Moulin Rouge!_?

I’d also be happy to take your share of Daniel Craig. (Have you seen _Casino Royale_? Forget him coming out of the ocean; the swoon-worthy shot of him wet was when he went into the shower fully clothed to comfort The Girl.)

> [@ruadh](#):
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> 1. Never understood the appeal of George Clooney. I’ve said this loads of times before but to me he looks just like Jay Leno without the chin.

Nope – he’s the reincarnation of Cary Grant. Looks _and_ that luscious baritone.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/34 "2009-04-19T21:16:07Z")

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Somehow this thread makes me want to post [this link](http://home.comcast.net/~speedyturkey/nothitit.jpg).

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/35 "2009-04-19T21:20:30Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> I absolutely agree with you, if we are talking about her current way-too-skinny self. However, back when she had some meat on her bones, say when she did _The Mask_, she absolutely merited Ebert’s description.

The Mask was the only film in which I found her attractive, but damn, she was \*gorgeous \*in that. Doesn’t even look like the same woman we all think of as “Cameron Diaz”.

Megan Fox is the anti-hot. That chick is trying waaaaaaaaay too hard.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/36 "2009-04-19T21:26:28Z")

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Clive Owen  
Sarah Jessica Parker  
Matt Damon  
Paris Hilton  
Burt Reynolds  
Lisa Kudrow

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/37 "2009-04-19T21:40:47Z")

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> [@Omega\_Glory](#):
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> Clive Owen  
> …  
> Lisa Kudrow

Come on, I’m a straight-as-a-laser-beam guy, and I think Clive Owen is hot. It’s a pity he passed up the role as Bond (although Daniel Craig was a good choice). “Here we are, sir, and in good time, too.” – The Driver, _The Hire: Star_

Lisa Kudrow is a woman of perfectly ordinary appearance who has a beautiful smile and a rare talent to be as good at understated drama as she is in comedy.

Stranger

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/38 "2009-04-19T21:43:39Z")

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Zac Efron is a hack, an utterly untalented John David Carson wannabe with zero charisma who uses phony kinetics and lacks confidence. I am so unbelievably sick of seeing his face everywhere I look, and the same also goes for Miley Cyrus. (Yuck!)

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/39 "2009-04-19T21:51:15Z")

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> [@shy\_guy](#):
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> Zac Efron. A lot of my friends drool over him, but to me he looks like a twelve-year-old with a particularly awful haircut. Just don’t see the appeal at all.

I didn’t see the big deal either, until someone linked to [this](http://www.undiesdrawer.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/05/zac_efron_underwear.jpg) picture in another thread. His face is nothing special, but yowza, that’s a nice body.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/40 "2009-04-19T21:51:51Z")

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> [@Omega\_Glory](#):
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> Lisa Kudrow

Since when was Lisa Kudrow a sex symbol?

Similarly, Sarah Jessica Parker is frequently the butt of jokes for being ugly. Perhaps some people find her attractive, but it’s hard to say someone is regarded as hot when they’re commonly understood and used as a cultural reference for “ugly.”

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