# Allegedly hot chicks/studs whose appeal escapes you

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 19, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630 "2009-04-19T16:48:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/41 "2009-04-19T21:56:48Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> The Mask was the only film in which I found her attractive, but damn, she was \*gorgeous \*in that. Doesn’t even look like the same woman we all think of as “Cameron Diaz”.

[These folks](http://blogs.smarter.com/beauty/2008/12/02/botox-injection-parties-what-could-possible-be-next-in-the-realm-of-beauty-find-out-at-innerrewardscom/) blame her exercise & weight loss regimes for sucking all the fat out of her face.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/42 "2009-04-19T21:59:21Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Similarly, Sarah Jessica Parker is frequently the butt of jokes for being ugly. Perhaps some people find her attractive, but it’s hard to say someone is regarded as hot when they’re commonly understood and used as a cultural reference for “ugly.”

She keeps getting cast as love interests so _someone_ out there thinks she’s good looking.

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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/43 "2009-04-19T21:59:23Z")

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I’ve said it before, but I just don’t find Sharon Stone hot. People have said that she doesn’t look excellent in stills, and I have to see her in motion, but I have seen her movies, and she just looks . . . plastic and skanky. Take _Pinnochio_ and substitute Real Doll for puppet, and that’s how Sharon Stone comes off to me.

Also, she couldn’t act dumber or skankier in real life if she stripped at Centerfolds in between movie roles.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/44 "2009-04-19T22:00:06Z")

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> [@Stauderhorse](#):
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> I didn’t see the big deal either, until someone linked to [this](http://www.undiesdrawer.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/05/zac_efron_underwear.jpg) picture in another thread. His face is nothing special, but yowza, that’s a nice body.

That’s just a run of the mill semi-athletic “swimmer’s” body. They’re a dime a dozen. All it takes to accomplish that kind of physique is a decent diet and a few hours a week at the gym swimming and playing basketball, plus a typical 20-year old metabolism. I’m a lot more impressed with someone who actually lifts some weights to attain his build - someone like Christian Bale.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/45 "2009-04-19T22:09:04Z")

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**Denise Richards**

\*\*Victoria Beckham \*\*(at least since she lost all her body fat)

**Hugh Jackman** - he’s talented, funny, and charming and that makes him really attractive, but there’s something “off” about his face that I can’t put my finger on

**Nicole Kidman** - she has a lovely complexion and a statuesque body, but she’s just not all that pretty

**Katie Holmes** - she’s cute, but not hot

Ditto on \*\*Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Cameron Diaz, Julia Roberts \*\*and **Russell Crowe**

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/46 "2009-04-19T22:09:07Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> That’s just a run of the mill semi-athletic “swimmer’s” body. They’re a dime a dozen. All it takes to accomplish that kind of physique is a decent diet and a few hours a week at the gym swimming and playing basketball, plus a typical 20-year old metabolism.

Oh really? They why do I so rarely see men with this physique walking around? This might be because you’re a guy, but as a woman, I clicked on that link and went, yowza. I agree that his face is too cutesy cute for me to think it’s sexy (he looks like an anime character to me-- all he needs is the spiky hair) but his bod? There’s absolutely nothing to knock there. Not a blessed thing.

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> I’m a lot more impressed with someone who actually lifts some weights to attain his build - someone like Christian Bale.

Do you know what Zac Efron’s exercise regimen is, or are you just guessing? And, why can’t I be impressed with both of them?

ETA: Hugh Jackman is the hottest thing out there, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/47 "2009-04-19T22:28:52Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Since when was Lisa Kudrow a sex symbol?
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> Similarly, Sarah Jessica Parker is frequently the butt of jokes for being ugly. Perhaps some people find her attractive, but it’s hard to say someone is regarded as hot when they’re commonly understood and used as a cultural reference for “ugly.”

Kudrow was cast on a show that was supposed to be about attractive singles living an attractive NYC lifestyle. Which is similar to the point \*\*Jophiel \*\*made about SJP. Family Guy made a joke about her looks, but that’s _Family Guy_. If it’s happened more frequently than that, I’ll take your word for it, but she clearly has no problem finding work in roles where the character is supposed to be very attractive.

\*\*Stranger, \*\* sorry, I just don’t see it. He has a worn, rough look that’s unappealing. I’m not saying he, or any of the other people on my list are hideous, or untalented, but I wouldn’t give any of them a second glance.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/48 "2009-04-19T22:36:32Z")

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Liv Tyler. I swear it always looks like she’s on the verge of tears at all times.

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**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/49 "2009-04-19T22:36:50Z")

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Russell Crowe is bland looking; I don’t see the attraction.

Daniel Craig is ape-like.

George Clooney–no.

Elijah Wood makes a great-looking hobbit. He doesn’t look like a human being at all, though.

Actually there aren’t a lot of major guy actors out there I _do_ think are attractive right now.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/50 "2009-04-19T22:38:29Z")

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> [@rexnervous](#):
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> Jessica Simpson - don’t care what stage of her life, but her body has never been great and most definitely she is not pretty. Just add to that the eternal stupidity and I feel like I’m on a different planet from most of my fellow human males.

You must be trolling… a great figure is pretty much the one thing Jessica Simpson’s always had going for her, at least until very recently, and even that’s debatable.

If “her body has never been that great”, then whose body is? Nell Carter?

Here are some examples:

[http://www.adrants.com/images/jessica\_simpson\_05.jpg](http://www.adrants.com/images/jessica_simpson_05.jpg)

[http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/images/Jessica-Simpson.jpg](http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/images/Jessica-Simpson.jpg)

[http://jessicasimpsoni.blogspot.com/2009\_02\_01\_archive.html](http://jessicasimpsoni.blogspot.com/2009_02_01_archive.html)

[http://www.irenita.es/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/jessica-simpson-bikini.jpg](http://www.irenita.es/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/jessica-simpson-bikini.jpg)

[http://www.jessfan.com/gallery/?dir=Jessica%20Simpson%20Pink%20Bikini](http://www.jessfan.com/gallery/?dir=Jessica%20Simpson%20Pink%20Bikini)

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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/51 "2009-04-19T22:41:43Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> That’s just a run of the mill semi-athletic “swimmer’s” body. They’re a dime a dozen. All it takes to accomplish that kind of physique is a decent diet and a few hours a week at the gym swimming and playing basketball, plus a typical 20-year old metabolism. I’m a lot more impressed with someone who actually lifts some weights to attain his build - someone like Christian Bale.

I’d have to disagree with you on this one. This guy looks like a few of the better wrestlers on our school’s team, and I assure you _those_ guys put in their gym time. He looks better than someone who spends a few hours a week at the gym (not that I’m fucking _jealous_ of this guy’s abs or anything. Now if you’ll excuse me, I think I’ll go eat a candy bar and hurt a squirrel or something.)

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/52 "2009-04-19T22:42:49Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> Do you know what Zac Efron’s exercise regimen is, or are you just guessing? And, why can’t I be impressed with both of them?

I spend a lot of time at the gym and I’m also a fan of competitive bodybuilding (although I think the sport has fallen a long ways since the 1970s.) It’s really easy to tell whether or not someone lifts weights in any kind of focused way by looking at their body. Zac Efron obviously has very little muscular development.

Everyone has muscles underneath their fat. The less fat you have, the more visible the muscles are. (This is the key to having a “six pack” - doing 500 situps will accomplish nothing - the only way to have your abdominals show is to have low body fat, which is accomplished through diet.) Zac Efron has a low amount of fat, so his muscles are visible. But the muscles themselves are not very impressive - they’re not developed, and they don’t have “peaks.” Everything about them is fairly flat and smooth.

He’s obviously in excellent physical condition; he has a nice aesthetic physique, one which is definitely appealing to women. I’m not denying any of that. But I’m pretty damn sure that he doesn’t lift weights in any serious way.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/53 "2009-04-19T22:43:17Z")

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Eh, for whatever it counts, Jessica Rabbit.

Maybe I just didn’t watch enough Tex Avery cartoons in my formative years, or somethin.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/54 "2009-04-19T22:44:56Z")

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> [@Linty\_Fresh](#):
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> I’d have to disagree with you on this one. This guy looks like a few of the better wrestlers on our school’s team, and I assure you _those_ guys put in their gym time.

I wrestled in high school; wrestlers have a lean build but they typically don’t have much real muscular development. A wrestler will have long, lean, sinewy muscles, but those are not the result of weightlifting, they are the result of simply having low body fat.

Truly gaining muscle mass is near impossible, as a wrestler, because of the diet restrictions and the weight cutting. To gain muscle mass you must eat a surplus of calories every day. I can just about guarantee there is NO serious amateur wrestler who eats a surplus of calories.

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**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/55 "2009-04-19T22:47:06Z")

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I second Julia Roberts and Sharon Stone. Never saw why they were so lusted after. Jennifer Aniston is another. Her face looks sort of masculine, IMHO, and her body isn’t sexy either.

I’m shocked anyone would mention Rosario Dawson. After seeing her sex scene in Alexander, she took the “Most Beautiful Actress Alive” title from Nicole Kidman, at least in my book, but that’s what makes these threads fun.

I’m a male, but I hear a lot of women gush over Nicholas Cage and I don’t get it. I enjoy him as an actor, but he’s been going bald since his early twenties and has an odd face. Then again, a woman on Howard Stern who’d slept with him said that he’s hung like a horse. Maybe women can sense that sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/56 "2009-04-19T22:53:25Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> You must be trolling… a great figure is pretty much the one thing Jessica Simpson’s always had going for her, at least until very recently, and even that’s debatable.
> 
> If “her body has never been that great”, then whose body is? Nell Carter?
> 
> Here are some examples:
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> [http://www.adrants.com/images/jessica\_simpson\_05.jpg](http://www.adrants.com/images/jessica_simpson_05.jpg)
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> [http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/images/Jessica-Simpson.jpg](http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/images/Jessica-Simpson.jpg)
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> [http://jessicasimpsoni.blogspot.com/2009\_02\_01\_archive.html](http://jessicasimpsoni.blogspot.com/2009_02_01_archive.html)
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> [http://www.irenita.es/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/jessica-simpson-bikini.jpg](http://www.irenita.es/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/jessica-simpson-bikini.jpg)
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> [http://www.jessfan.com/gallery/?dir=Jessica%20Simpson%20Pink%20Bikini](http://www.jessfan.com/gallery/?dir=Jessica%20Simpson%20Pink%20Bikini)

No, not trolling. She doesn’t have the body that a thousand other women don’t have. I will say that I’m probably biased in that I think she is incredibly ugly (face-wise) and her lack of intelligence is a detriment, but even saying so I don’t think she has a body worthy of the adoration given her.

No doubt, she has an ok body - although her boobs are just too big for her frame - but hell, you can see that just walking down the street. So what is her appeal?

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**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/57 "2009-04-19T22:55:47Z")

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> [@Rainbowthief](#):
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> Her face looks sort of masculine, IMHO, and her body isn’t sexy either.

Ok, now this thread is getting ridiculous. Her body may be older now, but when she was in Friends. Come on.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/58 "2009-04-19T22:56:16Z")

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Jessica Simpson looks 50,000 times better right now than she ever did at any other point in her career. I like a woman who looks like a woman, and not like a boy with breasts and long hair.

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**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/59 "2009-04-19T22:58:18Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> Jessica Simpson looks 50,000 times better right now than she ever did at any other point in her career. I like a woman who looks like a woman, and not like a boy with breasts and long hair.

Doesn’t matter at what point her career was - she’s just not hot/sexy/pretty. Just…no.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/60 "2009-04-19T23:01:24Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> I don’t think anyone, other than perhaps Kurt Cobain, ever considered Courtney Love to be a “hot chick”.
> 
> Recently I’ve seen actress Megan Fox mentioned in threads here as an example of a hot chick. I had to look her up on [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Fox) to see who she was (I didn’t see the recent _Transformers_ movie, which is apparently her only significant role to date), and I have to say I was underwhelmed. I mean, I guess she’s better looking than the Average Jane, but by Hollywood standards she’s nothing special. She’s skinny, overly skinny for my tastes but pretty typical for a young starlet, and her face is just kind of generically pretty. Although Fox is only 22 she looks like she’s already had a lot of work done. I don’t know if she actually _has_, but that’s how she looks to me.
> 
> Ewan McGregor’s been mentioned in this thread a few times, but I think part of his appeal is that he’s more a “boy next door” type than matinee idol handsome.

Plus the kilt-gotta love the kilt.

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